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Re: Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

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I wonder why you put big EU flag in your profile, but have only a little German one. Don't you feel German first, and european 2nd?
I think this question is for me (right Jaro)?

Honestly I must have made this accidentally, as I just have chosen my flags and somehow the EU-flag ended up being bigger.

Well appart from that I feel first German+European, especially as I believe that in a world of 6 billion people, Germans are nothing without our fellow European neighbours.
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Re: Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

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I think this question is for me (right Jaro)?

Honestly I must have made this accidentally, as I just have chosen my flags and somehow the EU-flag ended up being bigger.

Well appart from that I feel first German+European, especially as I believe that in a world of 6 billion people, Germans are nothing without our fellow European neighbours.
I agree!
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Re: Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

Eventhough it is simply because the flags in the USPolitics-online archieve have a different size... I do agree with the Flags size and I wouldn't change it.

I consider myself a German Europrean and I feel a certain pride when I see the European Unions flag. I feel this way not so much because of what the European Union is today, but for the long way it has come so far and for what it could and hopefully will become.

I fear that party politics and election campaign retorics combined with short sighted politicians is slowing the European integration down...


Hopefully the looming global & domestic chalenges (Climate Change, equalizing the EU living standart, Energy Supply, Food & Water Supply,...) will bring this Continent even closer together.

The EU is already the biggest trade block of the world and home of many market and technology leaders...
As the Age of the US Hegemony is ending and a multipolar world is forming, Europe will hopefully jump over the burdens of nationalism and take a United Position as one of the leading Factions...
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Eventhough it is simply because the flags in the USPolitics-online archieve have a different size... I do agree with the Flags size and I wouldn't change it.

I consider myself a German Europrean and I feel a certain pride when I see the European Unions flag. I feel this way not so much because of what the European Union is today, but for the long way it has come so far and for what it could and hopefully will become.

I fear that party politics and election campaign retorics combined with short sighted politicians is slowing the European integration down...


Hopefully the looming global & domestic chalenges (Climate Change, equalizing the EU living standart, Energy Supply, Food & Water Supply,...) will bring this Continent even closer together.

The EU is already the biggest trade block of the world and home of many market and technology leaders...
As the Age of the US Hegemony is ending and a multipolar world is forming, Europe will hopefully jump over the burdens of nationalism and take a United Position as one of the leading Factions...
I will be glad to see an united EU!Please accept my benediction!
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Please enlighten me, what exactly is a red or brown Nazi??
Poor Nazis, nazilike antifascists or antifascistic nazis and bolshewics in all kind of colors between shit and blood. If you like you can add some green islamistics too.

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How on earth have I even qualified to be called either a red or brown Nazi in the first place??
I cannot accept a German who is using a avatar like (Ge-)"Stapo" (=state police).

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Anyway your paranoia about me being a Nazi
If I would kill 50% of your family perhaps you will have paranoia but I'm only not trusting any animal that is saying it is a human being. I'm just simple to tired of discussions with antifascists and/or nazis.

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Poor Nazis, nazilike antifascists or antifascistic nazis and bolshewics in all kind of colors between shit and blood. If you like you can add some green islamistics too..
So basicly you are saying, that every fanatic on this planet is a Nazi, no matter whether he is a Nazi, Bolshewic, Islamist and so on.
Is that what you call a "clear, logic and explicit" uses of language??

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I cannot accept a German who is using a avatar like (Ge-)"Stapo" (=state police).
Well first of all rather than stupidly calling me a Nazi, you should better write that you don't like (the sound of) my avatar!!!

Apart from that, is there anything else (views, opinions) that make me a Nazi or do you just like to insult other people???


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If I would kill 50% of your family perhaps you will have paranoia but I'm only not trusting any animal that is saying it is a human being. I'm just simple to tired of discussions with antifascists and/or nazis.
I'm sorry to say, but it sounds like as if you are having more problems with yourself than with others. Just stop calling others baselessly Nazis and all of a sudden the tiredness to discuss with others vanishs.
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So basicly you are saying, that every fanatic on this planet is a Nazi ...
No basically I am saying you are a Nazi and for me it makes no difference wether you are red or brown.
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No basically I am saying you are a Nazi and for me it makes no difference wether you are red or brown.

The basis for your assumption is what again??

Oh forgot you don't answer questions:

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How on earth have I even qualified to be called either a red or brown Nazi in the first place??
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Your entitled to your view, the only question I have is on what expierences/knowledge your base that view on???
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Antisemitic?? Haven't read any comments about killing/hating jews so how can this topic/thread be antisemitic??
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... The basis for your assumption is what again?? ...
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Re: Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

That is a pretty weak connection anobsitar.
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Re: Most Germans Feel no Responsibility for Israel

What does Ragnarök, specifically the fate that awaits the wicked, have to do with your flimsy argument that Stapo is some sort of Nazi?

Are you, in a round about way, accusing me of being a Nazi?
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What does Ragnarök, specifically the fate that awaits the wicked, have to do with your flimsy argument that Stapo is some sort of Nazi?

Are you, in a round about way, accusing me of being a Nazi?
Dear enemy mine: you are a Nazi but it's much more worse: 'Thor' means in German 'fool' and 'to have a hammer' or 'to be hammered' means in German 'to be crazy'. 'Ragnarök' sounds in the german language like someone has problems to eat bread. And 'Nidhöggur' in modern language would be "Neidhöcker" (Bubos of envy and cupidity) of the dark dragon of evilness. Unfortunately this dragon seems not really to be dead as often someone is killing him. The answer is quite simple: There is only one weapon that hurts the devil really - it's called "love". Someone with the name "Jesus Christ" - maybe you heard this name once - told something about. And he didn't tell to build Dachau or to build Guantanamo or to torture people like in some americans prison camps. If someone would kill you the problems of the USA cannot be solved. If you really like to have a compass take this old german tradition from the greek speaking Jew and Roman St. Paul:

And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God's power.

We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written: 'What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived— these things God has prepared for those who love him' for God has revealed them to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person's thoughts except that person's own spirit within? In the same way no-one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words. The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for, 'Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?' But we have the mind of Christ.
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you are a Nazi but it's much more worse: 'Thor' means in German 'fool'
You must have left school much too early to write things like this.

Thor doesn't mean 'fool' in German, it's the scandinavian form for an old Germanic god, named 'Donar' in German.

Donar is related to the German word 'Donner = thunder' andŽe.g. 'Donnerstag'= Thursday.

By the way the scandinavian form 'Thor' made it's way into the English language as exampled in the word 'Thursday'.

Your understanding of the word 'Thor' is probably influenced by the following citation:

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Wer nicht liebt Wein, Weib, Gesang, der bleibt ein Thor sein Leben lang. (Martin Luther)
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Whom is not loving wine, broad/dame/ singing, remains to be a Thor his whole life trough. ( Martin Luther)

It's only your (and Luther's) understanding that a 'Thor' is a 'fool'; I would rather judge him to be a decent guy.

Anyway Thorhammer probably will be able to enlighten you about the whole thing much better.
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Which of my questions have you tried to answer by this post??
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I consider myself a German Europrean and I feel a certain pride when I see the European Unions flag. I feel this way not so much because of what the European Union is today, but for the long way it has come so far and for what it could and hopefully will become.

I fear that party politics and election campaign retorics combined with short sighted politicians is slowing the European integration down...
I find your first statement surprising because my impression is that a European awareness exists, but that it is still very vague. Therefore I never heard anyone speaking of pride when seeing the European flag.

The problem with the EU seems to be that its direction is very much unclear.
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