No everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot (except in the cases I'm an idiot). But anyhow every Nazis is an idiot too what means Nazis are disagreeing with me and in case a Nazi would agree with me I would disagree with him and so everything is in balance forever and Nazis are always idiots too. And now the slow motion version: Nazis are idiots - do you agree?

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If I might just interfere here: deutsch means "german", and germanisch, to my knowledge means "germanic".

I think you are a bit confused about the English language here anobsitar. You are correct that, in English, 'deutsch' does translate into 'German'. However, in English, 'germanischer' does NOT translate as 'German' as you think it does. 'Germanischer' translates as 'Germanic' in the English language. Similar, yes, but not the same word. So, as you can see, the confusion is entirely on your end.

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Kid, you don´t know what you´re talking about.

Bavarians were originally NOT german but slavs and were chased out of present Austria.
They converted to Christianity about a hundred years AFTER the Trier/Cologne/Rhineland area, i.e. the time they were forced out of Austria..
The first german tribe to convert to christianity were the Franks and they were never in Bavaria.

And Odin or Wotan was the original german main god, more than 1000 years before Jesus was born.

So cut the crap, go back to school as I told you before and LISTEN TO YOUR TEACHER, little boy.

chronology of boys' clothing : ancient civilizations -- the Germanic Tribes

History of Saxony - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note:
No mention of Bavarians whatsoever.
Only their former name:
The Huns.

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Wrong direction. Austria was once a part of Bavaria in history - because the duchy of the Bavarians became to mighty Austria was splitted from Bavaria and became an own duchy. The people of Austria are Austrians=Bavarians=Germans. In roman notification we are speaking about the provinces Raetia, Noricum and Pannonia (Illyria). In all three provinces lived most celtic people in former times.

Nazis should not try to understand the german history - that's much too complicate. Why are you wasting your time with the german history and you are not doing what every Nazi can do in a perfect way like killing some children for example?

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In which time lived this Germanics you are speaking about now? If I remember right, they prayed to a god named "punch" but someone buried a collapsible chair and shoshones digged it out. But that's another story only a real german can understand. Heil!

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Germanic = Germanic Peoples It is a term that refers to a "historical group of Indo-European-speaking peoples, originating in Northern Europe and identified by their use of the Germanic languages which diversified out of Common Germanic in the course of the Pre-Roman Iron Age. The ancestors of these peoples became the eponymous ethnic groups of North Western Europe, such as the Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Germans, Dutch, and English"

Anyways, my point was that your translation was wrong.

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You might want to have a look here Bavarii - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Who for heavens sake are "bavarii"?

The Bavarians emerged in a region north of the Alps, originally inhabited by the Celts, which had been part of the Roman provinces of Rhaetia and Noricum. The Bavarians spoke Old High German but, unlike other Germanic groups, did not migrate from elsewhere. Rather, they seem to have coalesced out of other groups left behind by Roman withdrawal late in the 5th century AD. These peoples may have included Marcomanni, Thuringians, Goths, Rugians, Heruli, and some remaining Romans. The name "Bavarian" ("Baiuvari") means "Men of Baia" which may indicate Bohemia, the homeland of the Marcomanni.

Bohemians in this days were called "boio" and not "baia" - and the alemans and the suebens in the west are calling us today also "Boiern" - but doesn't make any matter - that's quite short too and better than to speak about "bavarii" which never existed.

Source: Bavaria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 788 Bavaria was this area:



I the north of Italy in this days lived our good friends the "Langobards" - what means singers with long beards. Maybe some are living in the USA now:

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Bavarii is simply another spelling of the name given to them by some Roman sources. I have also seen it spelled Baiarii and Baiuvari. Either way, what you have found pretty much mirrors what I was trying to point out. The modern Bavarians derive from a mixture of Celtic tribe/s, German tribes, and Romans. They are not slavs. Whether you choose to see it or not, I am agreeing with you about the ancestry of the modern Bavarians.

Also, we are talking about a time period long before 788. So your map is quite irrelevant. I won't even go into your ZZ-Top comment. Are you even capable of taking part in a civil conversation without restorting to childish jokes that make no sense?

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This roman lazybones. Not able to say ba(ju)varii.

The peole are spellign a lot if the day is long, that's true. But anyhow I digged out my collapsible chair and I'm on the warpath.



Maybe - I tried to learn the Czech language and I was very frustrated. Anyhow I'm not able to learn foreign languages. I hope one day I will start to learn english.

You Are agreeing with me? Windrful to hear that yoh think abiozut to say that all Nazis are ditios. Don'Ät be shy. Nazis are idiots and be sure ouy are nor hurting idiots with the truth.

I know the Venus of Villendrof fro example or the lionmen als are also bavarian ancestors. But ItÄs not so easy to contruct the times 20-40000 years ago. Th elieon men is my avatar and here#äs a pciture of one of my dancing grand-grand-grand-grand...mother:



Irrelavant? Perhaps. But if for example the criminal liar and idiot Wilson would have had any idea about history - he would make for example an own state Austro-Bavaria instead of his damned fucking unstable solutions they did after World War I and in the end maybe a lot of american soldiers in World War II never died because World War II never happend? If someone knows something about history it should be the truth. Most Ameriocans cannot dig in the earth to find their roots because there are only the roots of the red indinas - and it is a shame for the americans what they didi with the red indians. So perhaps Americans are losing the contact to their real roots, which are in most cases in Europe. Most peole are always thinkinh in sdtrcutires of might and Empires - but you should not forget: Bavaria never was an empire - but we are still alive.

I like their music - it's so barbarian - ah sorry: langobardian.

No.

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So finally you admit to being a Nazi.
you have no idea about german history - nor anything else.

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Not quiote right.
Most of the original bavarians originated in Romania. they were moving west , driven by the Isigoths first into Bohemia then to what now is Austria, then, fleeing the Huns into the present bavarian Region
There is definitively Slavian blood in Bavarians, not in all but in most.

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However, the Romanians claim to be a people of the remainders of the original Romans, thus their name. And, don't ever argue with a Romanian about this...they tend to get a bit upset about any denial of it. Sharing a personal experience here.

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I see. You like to genocide Bavarians - but not all, only most. The reason: some theories about history - and wether they are right or wrong doesn't make any matter to you. How generous. Your nation should take care not to concede a goal from some german slavian blood. Unfortunately people like you cannot be prisoned, because it would be an affront to every criminal to do so.

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