How on earth do you end up with the claim that he advocated to "genocide Bavarians"??

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Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

Very easy - I know how Nazis like you are thinking. Some Nazis had the Plan to kill 50% of all Bavarians and 70% of all Austrians. The banality of the evil starts always with absolutely stupid ideas. By the way: The color of my blood is green like from everyone who has vulcanian blood.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Oh dude... get of what ever you are taking...

What is wrong with you? Honestly?!
Why are you so damn hooked up with a world in which everything goes through a Nazi Filter! Every phrase, every word is scanned for some sort of Nazi refference....


People are discussing ancient history here at the moment... and because I know how Idiots minds work... I guess you went all kookoo in the head when reading "Slavian Blood"....
JUST READ WHAT IS THERE AND RESPOND TO IT, DON'T MAKE UP YOUR OWN WORLD AND ANNOY EVERYONE WITH BS THAT MAKES NO SENSE!
Herrgott sakra!!

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I see amazing patience in this thread. I am impressed with those demonstrating it. And, thanks for the history on German people. I'm enjoying those posts.

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

If someone is using the very antiquated word "blood" instead "DNA" that's really laughable today. The origin of the bavarians and other germans tribes is very complex and - by the way - often very funny and people which know really something about are always laughing a lot and they have a lot of fun.

But that are not the real problems of the world. The real problemes are in a way that violence today is done from soldiers to civilists and everyone thinks that this is okay. In World War 1 for example 20% of the victims were civilists, World War II it were 50%, in Vietnam it were 70% and now in Iraq it are 90. The real barbarians are growing in the world and are ebleiving every kidn of stupid propagandisms - as long as they like to feel good. This makes me angry. And you are also right in another way: to speak from "german blood" or "slavian blood" or "american blood" makes me angry. For sure it would make every man in the world angry if he learns to hear to the voice of his heart again. What do people really expect if they make battelfields all over the the world and are dunging it with their own blood or the blood of their enemies? I think this makes god himself angry.

We are living now - today in the reality and not in the world of the ideas of the 19th century - and worldwide all people are responible that history is going on and is not endless turning in the senseless circles of violence.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Thanks for a more reasonable and thought through post
Believe me, it is much better and more rewarding to communicate like this

I would personally not use the word blood aswell... but I guess the use of words is different in english and german...
For example it is quite common to discuss all kind of issues surrounding "Race" in the US... While this word has a very bad/racist sound in German.

But I wouldn't go around and call everyone a Nazi... while there are a few ACTUAL Nazis on this board from time to time... the majority of Users is quite normal...

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I think Anobsitar is an old guy living in Bavaria, his family probably had to move there from German part of Bohemia (Bavarians, hence his hatred for Czechs and his interest in Czech language, I cannot imagine why a German living in Germany would like to learn Czech language), and he is interested in history. Unfortunately he doesn't want to have a serious discussion and frequently resorts to nazi accusations and troll quality posts.

Nazis were planning to kill mainly physically disabled people, I don't think they would have killed random Bavarians/Austrians on that scale. On the other hand, they planned to kill many Czechs and Germanize those with "aryan" traits.

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You are wrong. I thought it makes sense to learn the language of our neighbors as the sowjet empire broke down - but I had to learn that I'm not able to do so. The Czeck language makes me confuse. I'm a Bavarian - nothing else and none of my ancestors which I know were Czechs.

Not with Czechs as long as the Benesh decress are giving to all Czechs the feeling a crime done in the right time is not criminal. Most Czechs are atheists and so I have nothing what gives me the need to communicate with them. If Czechs would live in Africa it would be the same to me.

No - the Benesh decrees are giving every Czech the right to kill every German without any reason only because he is a German. This 'right' is legal today in the year 2008 - althoug it is forever and all eternity a criminal act. 'Rights' in this way are not existing. This 'rights' are only not used - that's all. In case of problems I think within less than 24 hours this 'rights' will be reactivated.

Some had this plans because they really believed in stupid scientific theories about human genetics. In case of Czechs this would mean they had the plan to kill 100% of all Czechs.

The plan was to make "slaves" out of "slavs" and to kill them with slavery. In english language is makes sense to think so - in the german reality slavery never existed and it has nothing to do with a real german kind of thinking. Astonishing, isn't it? One plan for example was to stop the "niggroation" ('Verniggerung') of the Germans - and no Negroes were living in Germany and the word Negroe has no other meaning except "man with a dark skin from Africa". The 'Negroe' or 'Mohr' is often a picture in the german heraldic and had always a positive image. If you take a look behind the 'theories' of the Nazis it's quite clear where some thoughts came from: anglo-saxon world in this case: english imperiialisms, darwinisms, american racisms ... . Fascism came in big parts from Italy. Nazis used sovjet methods and socialistic theories as well as capitalistic ones. They took parts from Turkey, learned from Franco in Spain and so and so on. If you like to make new benesh decreees you should not forget to kill all people in the world whichever had stupid ideas without any reasons - like the benesh decrees are - this very inhuman and murderous act of the Czechs. You are a member of the European Union now and Czechs have now the possibility to make more people angry and not only Germans. Very good, isn't it? Your country don't need Germans anymore and is able to ignore everything whatever a German says.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

The worst thing about those accusations is, that the reason for his judgements only seems to be his blind and totally Nazi- like fanatism.

According to him:
I'm an evil Nazi, because of my name. Thorhammer is a Nazi, (maybe?) because of the look (German soldiers) of his (former) aviatar pic and you seem to be regarded "bad", because your country's/people's history.

Hell that just smells like Nazi-enemy-identification by name, looks or historical original sins.

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

I don't accuse someone. I just don't have any respect for people which like to tell me a dust-bin is a sweet home. Anyhow I'm sure that you have a lot of secret criminal ideas and you are much more worse than every czech ever will be - because unfortunately you are a German. But a German, who makes propaganda for the Gestapo, Stasi or other kinds of state polices in German history and all the liars and betrayers of the german people through centuries has anyhow earned to be cooked together with blue beans in brown shit as long as no one can see anymore any difference between brown and blue.

I asked you wether Nazis are idiots or they are not idiots ... What was your answer? ... I remember you said "Nazis are idiots", isn't it?

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Can't remember that you have directly asked me that question before, but as I'm not into chicken away from your (in this case really easy)question, I'm more than willing to answer with: YES.

Now do me a favour and let us come back to the thread and please answer my questions.

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

Next question: Do you think Antifascists are idiots or they are the same like Nazis in lots of cases? I give you a Tip: I do. In lots of cases I think that antifascists and Nazis are exactly the same idiots. This is one reason Germany has so many anger since the reunion of Germany. Esoteric Nazis, left Nazis, old Nazis, Neonazis - all are idiots in my eyes and I don't like like to learn now thousands of names. For me itüäs very clear that someone from this idiots liked to damage Germany in case ofd thsi question, that makes no sense becasue no ine is really able to answer to thsi questions. It's a püopagadisma. - a left opr right kind of nazism/antsfasciss. In don't xcare whcih kind of ideology itr way - but for sure teh Bakcground is to hurt Germasn and to hurt Jews - and because I have some jewish ancestors such stupidities are hurting me twice - specially because I love Germany. Never Germany did anything else than to feel responsible. If lots of idiots today don't have any idea that responsibility of individuals is completly different from the responsibility of states this shows only how damned fucked down under the whole world meanwhile is.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Someone can say ah it’s too much of the Holocaust, but I strongly disagree with that.
I think Jews are doing a very good Job. While they constantly talking about Holocaust they remind the rest of the world that Germanic tribes are historically the most dangerous genetically driven cold blooded baby killers on this planet. Their present sheep skin should not mislead people that today Germans are different than they used to be in the past.
Not only Jews, others also terribly suffered from German genocide actions, so they should contribute in this positive Jewish preventive propaganda against Germanic potentially on going criminal behaviour by reminding the world what Germans did to them as well.
For example China should not be lazy and also step up its own propaganda in reminding the world what horrific crimes were done by Japanese baby killers on much larger scale during second world war in China.

I think this makes very clear why I think that Antifascists and Nazis are completly the same. The Shoah is a fratricide in my eyes and I do not accuse my sisters and brothers because they killed big parts of my family. No one ever did it in my family. For everyone who knows, what the shoa is, it is impossible to speak about and it is impossible not to speak about. Not only Germans - no one in the world can understand it really - but to understand it means to know how all people in the world are. If you like you can study the fratricides of China and compare it with the Shoah. Germany has a lot of documentations about. Israel has a lot of documentations about.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Japan? China? What's going on in the moment? Japan opened its harbours for ships of North Korea, I heard. Japanese are speaking with 'enemies' - communication and trade is always a good sign. What does this mean for China?

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery