we have seen this movie before ala east africa...

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I gotta say that i have seen no threads here, or heard/read anything in the media, where the US is getting any blame or criticism at all. Sheesh, people think the Burmese generals are paranoid......


Andrew

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That's right. Im thinking the best thing would be to allow the burmese generals to coordiante the aid if they insist, its better than no aid at all.

Andrew

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The question then becomes are the Burmese generals distributing aid to those who need it, or using it for their supporters / themselves?

Matt

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Obviously it will be distributed with a bias, no question.

Andrew

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so to sum up, you would prefer they do it themselves, despite evidence that they are completely inept and uncaring and wpuld as you agree play favorites, than have western ngos or us french brits do it, who are clearly better at it?

Well my word....personally I hope those poor bastards don’t have to live with your opinion...

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Well when it comes right down to it all of the worlds resources are distributed with bias - to us mainly.

But, I would prefer that the most impartial groups handle the aid distribution. I'm really only considering that if random air drops occur, it will be distributed with absolute bias in a winner take all situation - or if they refuse to give it to the generals than nobody gets aid - and so perhaps the best possible situation, if nothing changes in the mood of the generals, is that they are allowed to deliver it.


Andrew

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No, it hasn't happened.

Yet.

But, if and when we say "Fuck you, Burma" (which, at this point, is what we should do), the libs will come out of the woodwork, pissing and moaning about how the US "refuses" to offer aid...

If it happened it would be a minority of folks, hardly anything you could paint with the broad liberal brush.


Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

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I have zero qualms about just dropping the aid over the objections of the Burmese 'government.' I feel the same about attacking any resistance they may pose to it (although the UN ought to quickly authorise it, but if it doesn't, screw it).

Whilst some raised the idea of violence, gangs, etc, looking to grab or seize it all, my chief concern is the Burmese armed and vicious thugs that form the 'government' seizing it from the people and punishing the people for taking it, the punishments of which I expect to be . . . let's say . . . not nice.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVCxEupPag

A very liberal brother of mine has a rule of thumb: When out with family or friends, he offers to help pay the tab or even pick it up. Then he argues only once if his aid is refused.

If this pans out to be yet another situation where these offers from the US are forgotten, and my brother joins in on that, I can remind him of his personal rule of thumb. (BTW, I like his rule of thumb and practice it, too.)

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It's not forgotten. The last big aid was the tsunami relief in Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean area, which is still paying huge dividends. It certainly rained on bin Laden's recruitment and propaganda campaigns in those regions.

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Around 200,000 Irish immigrants served in the Union and Confederate armies in the American Civil War, often forming their own regiments and, at times, fought each other. At Fredericksburg, the Union’s Irish Brigade faced the Irish McMillan's Guards of Cobb's 24th Georgia entrenched in a sunken road behind a stone wall. Ordered to make a suicidal charge, it became one of the most famous events of the Civil War. The re-enactment portrayed in the movie Gods and Generals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVCxEupPag

True. But I mean forgotten by those who have the tendency to view the US as the big, bad, uncaring, meanie no matter what facts are there.

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yes, *sigh*, the balkans come to mind...

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Eh, I wouldn't pay any mind to them. There will always be begrudgers and naysayers. C'est la vie. Even Julie Andrews and Santa Klaus have people who hate them. Unconditional love best comes from one's dog.

The US is the biggest guy in the classroom who others look to for leadership and high standards. It can--and should--be emotionally confident enough to handle the flaks that come with it. It's unbecoming of 'the big fella' IMO to be a whinging wuss. It's better just to brush off the sleeves of any crap, admit mistakes and rectify them where made if damage results, and be a good neighbour.

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Around 200,000 Irish immigrants served in the Union and Confederate armies in the American Civil War, often forming their own regiments and, at times, fought each other. At Fredericksburg, the Union’s Irish Brigade faced the Irish McMillan's Guards of Cobb's 24th Georgia entrenched in a sunken road behind a stone wall. Ordered to make a suicidal charge, it became one of the most famous events of the Civil War. The re-enactment portrayed in the movie Gods and Generals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVCxEupPag