Screw You, Burma - Page 3 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Si modo · #31 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere

Eh, I wouldn't pay any mind to them. There will always be begrudgers and naysayers. C'est la vie. Even Julie Andrews and Santa Klaus have people who hate them. Unconditional love best comes from one's dog.

The US is the biggest guy in the classroom who others look to for leadership and high standards. It can--and should--be emotionally confident enough to handle the flaks that come with it. It's unbecoming of 'the big fella' IMO to be a whinging wuss. It's better just to brush off the sleeves of any crap, admit mistakes and rectify them where made if damage results, and be a good neighbour.

Right. But, it's good ammo against my brother, so I will remember it.

Although, he is a thinking liberal, so I doubt he will try that tactic, anyway.

mabus · #32 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Steve

If the government doesn't want our aid, we should do nothing for them. Fuck 'em. When the world cries out about the tens of thousands of people who've died, and then whines about the US doing nothing, it'll be quite evident where the blame lies...

Well, I haven't seen anyone whining about the US doing nothing yet. Did you? In fact, the last 10.000 times is recognized people whining about the US, it was because the US WAS doing something when it rather should have done nothing.

calorie3000 · #33 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

Good news :
1/USA aid planes were alowed to enter Burma. The day after tommorrow , a C-130 will land on the Burma airport.
2/The third batch of aid material from China will arrive at Rangoon today.

IMO, the USA is doing the right thing this time. Although C-130 definitely didn't take off from the homeland of USA.

WharfedaleTiger · #34 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Speakeasy

So, with America's recent history of going into countries uninvited and destroying the crap out of everything, why don't we apply the same tactic when it comes to supplying aid to Burma? Obviously, we can all agree that the Burmese government are a bunch of retards, so what's stopping us from just flying in and dropping relief supplies on villages? I can't imagine there being a huge international outcry over such an action and what the heck is the Burmese government going to do about it?

Just seems to me that if we applied the same "We're America, so fuck you" attitude we do towards toppling governments we don't like onto helping needful Burmese civilians, they may be a bit better off.

So, what gives? I don't agree with entering countries uninvited, but that seems to be the order of the day recently, so why not run with it?

I know that Nick Clegg (Lib Dem leader) in the Uk has been calling for us to do just that. Apparently the Burmise are afraid of scrutany on todays constitutional elections. They've also been taking aid supplies and putting there names on it too pass them off as provided by the gov.

Wallaroo · #35 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

Just send in Rambo to make sure the aid gets where it needs to go!

Well, seriously I think that the NATO countries should consider invading the country and overthrow the government. These guys are even worse than Saddam...

Wallaroo · #36 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Speakeasy

So, what gives? I don't agree with entering countries uninvited, but that seems to be the order of the day recently, so why not run with it?

Because there is no oil to be found - dumb question!

multi_pol · #37 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by mabus

.... In fact, the last 10.000 times is recognized people whining about the US, it was because the US WAS doing something when it rather should have done nothing.

Well, it's also my impression. At many times, US is playing the roles much like a second UN.

multi_pol · #38 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by WharfedaleTiger

.. Apparently the Burmise are afraid of scrutany on todays constitutional elections. ..

Myanmar was british colony as India. Why has Myanmar gone the other way?

Tim · #39 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Steve

If the government doesn't want our aid, we should do nothing for them. Fuck 'em. When the world cries out about the tens of thousands of people who've died, and then whines about the US doing nothing, it'll be quite evident where the blame lies...

It's not the fault of the people who are dying. I don't care about telling off the world because they whine about Americans. The world is going to whine about Americans under any circumstances. That is going to happen no matter what we do or don't do because it is easy and fun. Who cares? This is too important.

The suffering of those people is dreadful and food and water and medicine will help. It won't be enough, but it will be something.

The French are with us. So I will say again: Let's roll...

Tim · #40 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by mabus

Well, I haven't seen anyone whining about the US doing nothing yet. Did you? In fact, the last 10.000 times is recognized people whining about the US, it was because the US WAS doing something when it rather should have done nothing.

Do you really need to turn even this thread into an anti-American fun-fest?

Just stay on topic....

WharfedaleTiger · #41 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

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Originally Posted by multi_pol

Myanmar was british colony as India. Why has Myanmar gone the other way?

We fecked up a lot of the ex-colonies TBH-we ran out of funds in the 60s and just hauled out. I'm not sure what happened with Burma but I'm presuming that we set up a tenious, pro-british goverment and it got overthrown by the military-either that or we set up a weak democratic gov.

When you look at a list of ex-British colonies you can see we didn't cover ourselves with glory-and now we're tring to make up for that.

erikvv · #42 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008

"Survivors in Burma"

jviehe · #43 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Yes, that's a perfect example of us delaying the inevitable. We knew we were going to invade Iraq, we just had to pretend like we were thinking about other options. We should learn from our mistakes and just go into Burma now. But, this thread isn't about Iraq and I haven't even specifically mentioned Iraq, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop trying to make this about Iraq.

I never said it was bad, I'm just asking why it's not happening. We've taken on an extremely liberal foreign policy as of late and there's obviously nothing I can do to change that, so why not use it for some good?

What criticism? Are you responding to the correct thread? Perhaps you should set down your "Generic replies to people I disagree with about Iraq" hand book and give a response that's custom made just for this thread? If you could give a reply that doesn't include the words "liberals" or "Iraq", that would be absolutely fantastic.

You arent referring to Iraq here?

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with America's recent history of going into countries uninvited and destroying the crap out of everything

Speakeasy · #44 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by jviehe

You arent referring to Iraq here?

Not specifically, no. There are quite a lot of countries that would fit the description of what I'm talking about over the last few decades.

Tim · #45 (**permalink**) 05-11-2008

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Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Not specifically, no. There are quite a lot of countries that would fit the description of what I'm talking about over the last few decades.

Really?

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