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Screw You, Burma

So, with America's recent history of going into countries uninvited and destroying the crap out of everything, why don't we apply the same tactic when it comes to supplying aid to Burma? Obviously, we can all agree that the Burmese government are a bunch of retards, so what's stopping us from just flying in and dropping relief supplies on villages? I can't imagine there being a huge international outcry over such an action and what the heck is the Burmese government going to do about it?

Just seems to me that if we applied the same "We're America, so fuck you" attitude we do towards toppling governments we don't like onto helping needful Burmese civilians, they may be a bit better off.

So, what gives? I don't agree with entering countries uninvited, but that seems to be the order of the day recently, so why not run with it?
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Re: Screw You, Burma

There is apparently consideration being given to doing just that.

I read it in the article about the Burnese government seizing aid supplies from the UN.

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Re: Screw You, Burma

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There is apparently consideration being given to doing just that.

I read it in the article about the Burnese government seizing aid supplies from the UN.

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Well, we need to quit pussy footing around and get on with it. It's pitiful that relief is getting in so slowly and the aid that does get in is being taken by the government. I'd imagine that time isn't exactly on the side of hundreds of thousands of Burmese civilians, so we should just load up the cargo planes and start bombing them with food and medicine.

I'm just wondering why our 'gung-ho' attitude towards ignoring the sovereignty of other countries doesn't apply in a case like this, when nobody would really get angry and it would clearly do a lot of good.

We obviously don't like the Burmese government, so why are we going to start respecting the wishes of governments we don't like now?

Is there anyone out there that would be opposed to the idea (that doesn't work for the Burmese government)?
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Well, we need to quit pussy footing around and get on with it. It's pitiful that relief is getting in so slowly and the aid that does get in is being taken by the government. I'd imagine that time isn't exactly on the side of hundreds of thousands of Burmese civilians, so we should just load up the cargo planes and start bombing them with food and medicine.

I'm just wondering why our 'gung-ho' attitude towards ignoring the sovereignty of other countries doesn't apply in a case like this, when nobody would really get angry and it would clearly do a lot of good.

We obviously don't like the Burmese government, so why are we going to start respecting the wishes of governments we don't like now?

Is there anyone out there that would be opposed to the idea (that doesn't work for the Burmese government)?
Like a more aggressive version of the Berlin airlift.

This has my vote.
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Re: Screw You, Burma

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So, with America's recent history of going into countries uninvited and destroying the crap out of everything, why don't we apply the same tactic when it comes to supplying aid to Burma? Obviously, we can all agree that the Burmese government are a bunch of retards, so what's stopping us from just flying in and dropping relief supplies on villages? I can't imagine there being a huge international outcry over such an action and what the heck is the Burmese government going to do about it?

Just seems to me that if we applied the same "We're America, so fuck you" attitude we do towards toppling governments we don't like onto helping needful Burmese civilians, they may be a bit better off.

So, what gives? I don't agree with entering countries uninvited, but that seems to be the order of the day recently, so why not run with it?
I seem to recall us taking 2 years of diplomacy to bust into Iraq. Maybe we should wait for two years before we invade Burma with food? I love how its bad for us to bust in and help people, but if we dont do it, its bad then too. The hypocrasy of the anti-america crowd is so rediculous. Even more rediculous is the criticism in the face of facts:

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The US and France yesterday called for international aid to be delivered to cyclone victims without the permission of the Burmese military government if the regime continues to block the arrival of foreign aid workers and material assistance.
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The US and France yesterday called for international aid to be delivered to cyclone victims without the permission of the Burmese military government if the regime continues to block the arrival of foreign aid workers and material assistance.
Bravo to the French

Let's go...
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Ahhh, a Blitzkrieg of Compassion. I like it.
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I seem to recall us taking 2 years of diplomacy to bust into Iraq. Maybe we should wait for two years before we invade Burma with food?
Yes, that's a perfect example of us delaying the inevitable. We knew we were going to invade Iraq, we just had to pretend like we were thinking about other options. We should learn from our mistakes and just go into Burma now. But, this thread isn't about Iraq and I haven't even specifically mentioned Iraq, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop trying to make this about Iraq.
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I love how its bad for us to bust in and help people, but if we dont do it, its bad then too.
I never said it was bad, I'm just asking why it's not happening. We've taken on an extremely liberal foreign policy as of late and there's obviously nothing I can do to change that, so why not use it for some good?
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The hypocrasy of the anti-america crowd is so rediculous. Even more rediculous is the criticism in the face of facts:
What criticism? Are you responding to the correct thread? Perhaps you should set down your "Generic replies to people I disagree with about Iraq" hand book and give a response that's custom made just for this thread? If you could give a reply that doesn't include the words "liberals" or "Iraq", that would be absolutely fantastic.
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Ahhh, a Blitzkrieg of Compassion. I like it.
That hit the nail on the head.
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Is there anyone out there that would be opposed to the idea (that doesn't work for the Burmese government)?
Im trying to consider what may be the reasons for not dropping aid and the the only really serious thing i can think of is that the air force might be worried about taking fire if they "invade" Myanmar air space and this might create an incident or something.... i can;t really think of any other reason not to do this...

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Im also wondering how effective aid is when its just dropped and nobody is around to coordinate... its quite possible a black market of aid supplies would develop rather quickly, along with hording and violence, and the situation might end up being worse as a result.... if it could get worse that is....

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Im also wondering how effective aid is when its just dropped and nobody is around to coordinate... its quite possible a black market of aid supplies would develop rather quickly, along with hording and violence, and the situation might end up being worse as a result.... if it could get worse that is....

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Nay, it could not get worse than it is at the moment; the "Myanmar";ian junta is grabbing the supplies, and thus ensuring that the victims don't get help they need.

An idea though(and note: this is not my own); the U.S. claims to be beacon of freedom and hope and wage wars in order to bring peace and stability.
-Here is a good target, go for it.
No seriously; Burma is in the hands of brutal Junta, citizens cry for help, so go in and help them through war. Invade `Myanmar´, overthrow the evil men and let democracy come into Burma.
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If the government doesn't want our aid, we should do nothing for them. Fuck 'em. When the world cries out about the tens of thousands of people who've died, and then whines about the US doing nothing, it'll be quite evident where the blame lies...
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anyway, yea I'm in....but can we not take a few prisoners for gitmo too, theres room?
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