It's our turn to learn?

Nice....really nice.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

Hope for the magic wand of the new WH administration? This MUST work, because this always worked, eh?

We don't feel any loss.

No offense......me being a major-league Bruce Lee fan and all......and having been to Hong Kong a few times myself.....but you haven't a clue.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

Oh, you are smearing us Chinese and Russian!
First, war about China:
In Korean War , there's USA !
In Vietnamese War, there's USA and France!
Tibet, a part of China, so certainly, we Chinese have enough right to
liberate slaves abused by DaLai!
It's very strange that in almost every war by Chinese, there's shadow of USA!
How do you think about this phenomena?

Second, war about Russia:
Soviet war in Afghanistan, yes, I know it's brought by USSR!
But as we all know, USSR has been a history!
And responsibility of every hot war in Cold War time, could't only be beared by Russian!
USA was ever also a part of cold war, and cold war was started by westerners!

Chinese and Russian don't like terrorists, such as East Turkistan elements,Chechnya separatists
and mobs in riot of Lahsa recently!
We are helping American to fight with terrorists!
But if not for war by USA, why so many Arabs hate American?
Don't only censure terrorists, no hate without reasons!
American need self-examination of their history!

If you were right , those wars are only history now!
Chinese and Russian are now living peacefully!
But USA army are still in Iraq, and are bringing more and more pains to Iraq people!
Why not do something from now?!
America people have ability of self-examination, so evacuate USA army now!

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Hi, my Russia friend, we are good neighbor!
I am from China!
Though we Chinese are in great pains of earthquake, but we are
happy of coming of your president!
Russian and Chinese are good friends!
America should learn us to live peacefully with all the world!

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You really believe that kind of total hyperbullshit???

By the way where in your own article is Jordan ever mentioned and for god's sake, what would be the motivation/benefit for this strong US-ally to help Saddam???

Even more I liked this part:

Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMD

This would only make sense, if Soviet Union was the main supplier for Iraq's wmd- programs.

Unfortunaly Europeans and especially we Germans were heavilly involved in helping Saddam to get wmd-techology, so if there ever were a country with interest of hiding Iraqs wmd, it would have to be Germany and not the Russians.

http://www.iraqwatch.org/suppliers/nyt-041303.gif

http://www.iraqwatch.org/suppliers/whoarmediraq.pdf

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

Perhaps you was involved - I was not involved. There were no weapons of mass destruction in the Iraq:

YouTube - Bush Jokes about WMD

(By the way: The view "Homo Homini Lupus" is more than 2200 years old - Plautus said "Lupus est homo homini, non homo, quom qualis sit, non novit." source: Homo homini lupus – Wikipedia)

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Have I stated anything like that????

By the way have you read and/or (more important) really understood the links/information provided???

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

"we Germans"

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

I read it, but I'm not interested in propaganda. It's not seldom that in high quality equipment in the world are some german parts. That doesn't mean someone who is producing this parts knows really what someone else in the world is doing with it.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

"We Germans"= German companies/German export controll agencies/German politicans and so on.

Anyway strange/surprising that you felt addressed, especially given the context of my usage of "We Germans".

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes

You must be under the impression that if a private German company does something illegal or if your government does something illegal...this means all Germans were in on it. This is akin to a blanket indictment which is unreasonable.
Last time I looked Germany was a free society.

Russia had the Spetnatz ready to do the coverup. Why involve anyone else?

German officials....without your knowledge may have approved the mission. I am under the impression that Germans would be more willing to face the music then the Russians were willing to, so maybe Germany was a reluctant participant in the coverup.

Now don't tell me your government tells you every single thing they're up to.....or do they. If so then that would be a historical first.

You assume that a highly sensitive Top Secret mission was revealed to the public before during or after the mission just to keep German citizens properly informed.
Don't make me laugh.

Anyone who has served in the military or held a TS security clearance knows this is an unreasonable assumption.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

We have...............problem is not everyone else has learned.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

So I'm not involved? Wonderful! Anyhow I hate it to produce not existing weapons, because they are damned cheap.

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Scientia et potentia humana in idem coincidunt, quia ignoratio causae destituit effectum
Sir Francis Bacon

On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Funny that you follow anobsitar bad example, especially as I have already clearified for whom exactly I used the term "we Germans" and really wonder why you conclude that I believe that all Germans are responsible for named actions.

I know I write/say/think a hell lot of crap on a daily basis, but something like this wouldn't cross my lips and be assured I don't believe such stuff.

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"bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia."
Thomas Hobbes

"Homo Homini Lupus"
Thomas Hobbes