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It may not concern you, but it very much affects you.
Every single American who loses a good paying job to foreign exploitation is like an added straw to the proverbial camels back.
Why would you define their process of industrialization as exploitation?
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But smearing my view as official propaganda, what other you can do?
I have no way of knowing whether you're spreading propaganda or expressing your personal opinion. I'm only pointing out that what you claim as personal opinion seems to line up with the official propaganda.
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I have no way of knowing whether you're spreading propaganda or expressing your personal opinion. I'm only pointing out that what you claim as personal opinion seems to line up with the official propaganda.
No, you are wrong!
I am not lining up with the official propaganda!
Although our government perhaps is not very democratic as you want, but it's an government of us Chinese!
Because our government is a government of us Chinese, the government have to realize our opinion in many importan areas!
Uniting Taiwan is one of our opinions!
If our government didn't cater for our opinion on Taiwan, our government would disapear!
So propaganda of our government is lining up with us ,but not the other way round as you said!
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We will do our best!
If Taiwan announced independence,I could contributed my life for TaiWan!
If somebody want to kill me , I will wait him/her!
I think not only I think so!
Chinese , not only one!
I can die for my country, many (or most) Chinese will do so!

1. Taiwan has made it very clear, that it will only unify with a DEMOCRATIC China.
2. After the worldwide negative Tibet news of the past months, China is glad to grab at the offered Taiwan straw, knowing quite well, that nothing will come out of it.

3. If youīre willing to die for a lost cause, youīre one of about half a percent of all Chinese. The rest will prefer to make money and stay alive.

4. Taiwan is NOT part of China, it is an independant country.

5. The way your claims go, you will probably declare the USA part of China in a week or so and threaten to kill Americans should they stay in the way of your ambitions of acquisition.


Come to grips with reality.

China has dabbled in economic adventures without the needed knowledge.
Now the economy has lost close to 40 percent value within one single year.

This is the main reason for the Taiwan talks.
Masquerated as unification talks by your government, these talks in reality are no more than seeking advice from a successful neighbor.

Should China keep up the aggression and Taiwan thereupon shifting her orders to other parts of Asia, China would lose close to 15 percent of her presentday work orders.

Fact is, Taiwan rules China, not the other way round as you would have it.

Come to think of it, you know very little of your own country apart from Beijing propaganda.
And itīs easy for a little man to pretend muscles where there are none, as long as he stands behind a very high wall and cannot be seen from the other side.
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I have no way of knowing whether you're spreading propaganda or expressing your personal opinion. I'm only pointing out that what you claim as personal opinion seems to line up with the official propaganda.
That's also a factor with about 30% of Americans whose opinions line up with official US propaganda.
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I think west politics have known that if Taiwan announced independence, not only Mainland and Taiwan would face war but also east Asia and more area of the world would face and suffer war!
Any responsible politic won't encourage Taiwan to annouce independence!

Again:
Taiwan IS independant, she has DECLARED independance she is merely not a member of the United Nations.

Full Stop.
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1. Taiwan has made it very clear, that it will only unify with a DEMOCRATIC China.
2. After the worldwide negative Tibet news of the past months, China is glad to grab at the offered Taiwan straw, knowing quite well, that nothing will come out of it.

3. If you´re willing to die for a lost cause, you´re one of about half a percent of all Chinese. The rest will prefer to make money and stay alive.

4. Taiwan is NOT part of China, it is an independant country.

5. The way your claims go, you will probably declare the USA part of China in a week or so and threaten to kill Americans should they stay in the way of your ambitions of acquisition.


Come to grips with reality.

China has dabbled in economic adventures without the needed knowledge.
Now the economy has lost close to 40 percent value within one single year.

This is the main reason for the Taiwan talks.
Masquerated as unification talks by your government, these talks in reality are no more than seeking advice from a successful neighbor.

Should China keep up the aggression and Taiwan thereupon shifting her orders to other parts of Asia, China would lose close to 15 percent of her presentday work orders.

Fact is, Taiwan rules China, not the other way round as you would have it.

Come to think of it, you know very little of your own country apart from Beijing propaganda.
And it´s easy for a little man to pretend muscles where there are none, as long as he stands behind a very high wall and cannot be seen from the other side.
Hi, don't write so many words for readons of independence of Taiwan!
What a hard work for you!
Our government may read it, but I won't!
We don't care that, we only know Taiwan is part of China!
We will do our best to unit it in any possible way, peaceful way or force way!
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1. Taiwan has made it very clear, that it will only unify with a DEMOCRATIC China.
2. After the worldwide negative Tibet news of the past months, China is glad to grab at the offered Taiwan straw, knowing quite well, that nothing will come out of it.

3. If youīre willing to die for a lost cause, youīre one of about half a percent of all Chinese. The rest will prefer to make money and stay alive.

4. Taiwan is NOT part of China, it is an independant country.

5. The way your claims go, you will probably declare the USA part of China in a week or so and threaten to kill Americans should they stay in the way of your ambitions of acquisition.


Come to grips with reality.

China has dabbled in economic adventures without the needed knowledge.
Now the economy has lost close to 40 percent value within one single year.
I'd like to see some links with numbers on that opinion. China educated its intelligentsia in the best western universities for decades and that core has been educating China itself since the late '90s.

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This is the main reason for the Taiwan talks.
Masquerated as unification talks by your government, these talks in reality are no more than seeking advice from a successful neighbor.

Should China keep up the aggression and Taiwan thereupon shifting her orders to other parts of Asia, China would lose close to 15 percent of her presentday work orders.
Hong Kong has always been head and shoulders above Taiwan in the accumulation and application of capital. Why would China seek advice from Taiwan, which like Hong Kong has been industrially joined at the hip to the mainland since the '80s? Taiwan would have more to lose by relocating current production from the mainland, their factories for instance, than China.

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Fact is, Taiwan rules China, not the other way round as you would have it.

Come to think of it, you know very little of your own country apart from Beijing propaganda.
And itīs easy for a little man to pretend muscles where there are none, as long as he stands behind a very high wall and cannot be seen from the other side.
Taiwan rules China? That's preposterous.
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That's also a factor with about 30% of Americans whose opinions line up with official US propaganda.
Okay...
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Doesn't the government generally tell you what your opinion is? You make it sound as if they're listening to you, rather than informing you what you must believe.

Rule one:
Never argue with a chinese, you´ll always lose for he will never listen .

Rule two:
Trust in Taiwan, THEY have brought about the (ever so slight) opening of the chinese market.

Rule three:
Trust in the chinese. Throughout history they have always squandered whatever they´ve gained. They always lost to smaller nations because they were too busy showing muscle where there was none.
They´ve invented some horrible looking weapons to frighten others only to be defeated by simple arrows and plein swords.

Rule four:
Give yourself a treat and go to China for a holiday with eyes open. You will soon realise, China will not achieve anything ever. Their mentality is to know everything better. do as little and cheat as much as possible and constantly utter nonsense knowing quite well, nobody cares to listen. So does my four year old grandson.

Well, rule four applies mainly to the likes of xy_god, but sadly a great percentage of the chinese are like him.

A personal note:
The germans didn´t bomb pearl harbor. they nuked the Japs.

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I'm not really sure, but I definitely know that I wouldn't argue that they should remain part of the US because they were once part of the US or had been part of the US for a while.
Hawaii for less time than Tibet to China. Though Hawaii APPLIED to become US state.
Alaska was bought and is property of the US.
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A personal note:
The germans didnīt bomb pearl harbor. they nuked the Japs.
The line next to Dr's avatar is a line from a popular movie here in America, and is ment to be a joke.
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I wonder if xy_god will be seen here anymore or if the censors will act on him/her now. It will be interesting to see.

Stop wondering.
Heīs only writing what heīs told to write. He wouldnīt dare to voice his own opinion - if ever he had one.

Some chinese guys can climb the ladder into the open net (though you only see those on and off), but the likes of xy_god are being lifted over the wall.
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The goal of the official propaganda machine at this time, is goodwill before the Olymipics, as far as I know. It looks like xy blew that one.

China always speak with tongue of snake. split pelsonalities. Believe people in wolld will be full of feel of China. If China get kicked ass, will go back in mountain and cly till next time.
Too much Kao Liang I suppose.
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Stop wondering.
Heīs only writing what heīs told to write. He wouldnīt dare to voice his own opinion - if ever he had one.

Some chinese guys can climb the ladder into the open net (though you only see those on and off), but the likes of xy_god are being lifted over the wall.
Hi, don't smear me!and don't substitute my talking!
It's your views ,not mine!
My views can freely be on net of China!
Certainly, some net of American I can't browse!
And I can't plan to overthrow our government!
But I could do other anything now!
I have no time and reasons to overthrow our government, we depend on our government to resist disaster of earthquake!
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Stop wondering.
He´s only writing what he´s told to write. He wouldn´t dare to voice his own opinion - if ever he had one.

Some chinese guys can climb the ladder into the open net (though you only see those on and off), but the likes of xy_god are being lifted over the wall.
You are one full of liars!
And you have no any democratic soul!
Only I can express myself, not you!
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