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Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

Well now we’re cooking….pun fully intended…so here we are, I mean, hey, he was at the United Nations food summit in Rome last week, gave a speech too….how fucking obscene is that?

I thought the EU had a travel restriction on him by the way…oh well.
This is the kind of relativism, lack of seriousness and common sense in the UN that makes me react and wish that, they would take their charter their lack of accountability and their bloated overfed bureaucracy and just go.
Bolton was right, you could lose the top 13 floor’s of that joint and not miss a thing, besdies saving money.




Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

The men who pulled up in three white pickup trucks were looking for Patson Chipiro, head of the Zimbabwean opposition party in Mhondoro district. His wife, Dadirai, told them he was in Harare but would be back later in the day, and the men departed.

An hour later they were back. They grabbed Mrs Chipiro and chopped off one of her hands and both her feet. Then they threw her into her hut, locked the door and threw a petrol bomb through the window.

The killing last Friday – one of the most grotesque atrocities committed by Robert Mugabe’s regime since independence in 1980 – was carried out on a wave of worsening brutality before the run-off presidential elections in just over two weeks. It echoed the activities of Foday Sankoh, the rebel leader in the Sierra Leone civil war that ended in 2002, whose trade-mark was to chop off hands and feet.

Mrs Chipiro, 45, a former pre-school teacher, was the second wife of a junior official of the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) burnt alive last Friday by Zanu (PF) militiamen. Pamela Pasvani, the 21-year-old pregnant wife of a local councillor in Harare, did not suffer mutilation but died later of her burns; his six-year-old son perished in the flames.

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Re: Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

That is just obscene. It's obscene what was done to the woman - beyond the imagination (but I am not a sociopath) - and it is obscene that Mugabe gets immunity to travel to a UN conference, especially when his actions damage his own nation's food supply.

But all is well, the UN will write a kinda nasty letter about him.

It's been quite a long time since I expect the UN to do much of anything more than talk and write.
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Re: Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

And the West and the rest of the African nations sit by and don't do a thing to stop this tyrant. Does anyone really expect fair elections next month?
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Re: Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

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And the West and the rest of the African nations sit by and don't do a thing to stop this tyrant. Does anyone really expect fair elections next month?
And break a half-century of tradition? He needs some abundant, desirable natural resources so the US can enforce his dictatorship, the sauds being a business model.
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And break a half-century of tradition? He needs some abundant, desirable natural resources so the US can enforce his dictatorship, the sauds being a business model.
There is absolutely no reason on the face of the Earth to turn this issue into a bash America issue. Give it a rest.

The spirit of the UN is to prevent crap like this in nations where few others have outside interests; yet the UN does nothing. Not only does the UN do nothing, they lend legimacy to this pig by inviting him to a conference and granting immunity to him to do so.

The UN is to blame for inaction, wrong actions when they do act; and the ultimate blame falls on Mugabe.
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Re: Robert Mugabe's militia burn opponent’s wife alive

yes well last I checked china was his biggest fan, they have basically bought whatever tobacco crop they raise, plus whatever mineral rights there are to be had etc. It appears that admonishment, or declarations of disgust are held in abeyance sans that, and we are left with a gratuitous bitch slap for the US, of course we have no shortage of that here, even in conditions unconnected, well, its Saturday in June, so why not.

Mugabe finds succour in Beijing deals | World news | The Guardian

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It would seem that all the devils from hell who were in Rwanda in the 90s have transferred.

I don't know how to discuss this. It defies words.

*(reminder: There was a headline on a news magazine that quoted a nun who said, "There are no devils left in hell, they are all in Rwanda.)
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yes well last I checked china was his biggest fan, they have basically bought whatever tobacco crop they raise, plus whatever mineral rights there are to be had etc. It appears that admonishment, or declarations of disgust are held in abeyance sans that, and we are left with a gratuitous bitch slap for the US, of course we have no shortage of that here, even in conditions unconnected, well, its Saturday in June, so why not.

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Trade with other nations regardless of their ideology and without military intimidation or intervention? What a novel idea!
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The election is over so to speak. I would be very surprised if Mugabe allows a vote or I should say a result that would allow the opposition to win. I wonder where Jimmy Carter is? Is he going to volunteer his org. To over watch the elections? Is anyone?


Zimbabwe Opposition Chiefs Detained
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June 14, 2008 8:12 a.m.

HARARE, Zimbabwe -- Police brought the No. 2 leader of Zimbabwe's opposition political party to court Saturday -- but only after a judge ordered them to do so a second time.

Reporters watched as Tendai Biti, handcuffed and appearing tense, was brought into Justice Ben Hlatshwayo's court. He said "fine" when reporters asked how he was.

Earlier, according to opposition lawyer Lewis Uriri, police had told the judge they weren't sure the order he issued a day earlier was genuine. Mr. Hlatshwayo then gave police an hour to produce Mr. Biti.

Mr. Biti, secretary general of the Movement for Democratic Change, was arrested upon returning to Zimbabwe from neighboring South Africa Thursday. Police had refused to say where he was being held. Police have said he faces a treason charge, which can carry the death penalty.

Movement for Democratic Change president Morgan Tsvangirai faces longtime leader Robert Mugabe in a presidential runoff in less than two weeks. Mr. Biti's arrest adds to concerns the June 27 runoff won't be free and fair after a campaign that has seen brutal attacks on opposition supporters, arrests of key opposition figures and repeated interruptions of Mr. Tsvangirai's attempts to campaign.

On Saturday, the opposition said in a statement that Mr. Tsvangirai was again detained by police as he campaigned in rural Zimbabwe. He and 11 others on his campaign team were stopped at a road block and taken to a police station. Police have typically stopped Mr. Tsvangirai at roadblocks as he attempted to reach rallies or small meetings with voters, then taken him to stations where he has been held for hours before being released.

"It is clearly impossible to talk about free and fair elections in Zimbabwe and to suggest otherwise is to be clearly blind to the grave harassment, intimidation and violence that the people of Zimbabwe have had to endure over the past few years," the party statement said, calling on Zimbabwe's neighbors to intervene.

Mr. Tsvangirai came in first in a field of four in the first round of presidential voting March 29. But, according to the official tally, he did not win the 50% plus one vote required to avoid a runoff.

In 2004, Mr. Tsvangirai was acquitted after a treason trial that lasted more than a year.

Police said the treason charge Mr. Biti faces stems from a transition document they claim was a blueprint for regime change. He is also accused of spreading false information for releasing the opposition's own tally from the first round of elections -- under Zimbabwean law, only election officials can release results.

Mr. Tsvangirai said the police claims against Mr. Biti are "frivolous."

Besides being accused of orchestrating violence, Mr. Mugabe's government has in recent weeks been accused of using food as a political weapon. The government ordered independent aid agencies last week to stop work. Mr. Mugabe has accused foreign aid agencies of working with the opposition to topple him, but the effect of the crackdown has been to make millions of hungry Zimbabweans even more dependent on his government, just as they are deciding whether to keep him in power.

U.S. officials said that last week security forces confiscated a large U.S. food donation intended for children and gave it to Mr. Mugabe supporters in a country where economic collapse has left many people struggling to feed themselves.

Mr. Mugabe, Zimbabwe's head of government since 1980, was lauded early in his rule for campaigning for racial reconciliation and building the economy. But in recent years, he has been accused of ruining the economy and holding onto power through fraud and intimidation.

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Trade with other nations regardless of their ideology and without military intimidation or intervention? What a novel idea!
Sure, the Chinese rock in their foreign policies.
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Trade with other nations regardless of their ideology and without military intimidation or intervention? What a novel idea!
sorry not buying it. If you want to reframe your previous comment go ahead, but it was plainly apparent. Your rationalization now rings hollow.
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sorry not buying it. If you want to reframe your previous comment go ahead, but it was plainly apparent. Your rationalization now rings hollow.
So hollow that I have a visual of a bicycle going in reverse.
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Sure, the Chinese rock in their foreign policies.
They seem to get all the commodities they require for their impressive economic expansion without devoting a major portion of their government expenditures to military intimidation, which provides no return on investment. Have you thought about why they're one of the major holders of US debt and USD currency reserves? Or would that just be considered luck?
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sorry not buying it. If you want to reframe your previous comment go ahead, but it was plainly apparent. Your rationalization now rings hollow.
Why would I want to do that? Americans whining about non-intervention by the UN is usually one step ahead of their desire for US intervention.
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Why would I want to do that? Americans whining about non-intervention by the UN is usually one step ahead of their desire for US intervention.
It's too bad that the woman didn't have you to monger some fear in her before the mooks came back an hour later to butcher her then burn her alive. She sure could have used your input.
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