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Well comratski, why not? Leningrad got his old name back, why not accepting another renaming as well?Originally Posted by MilleVanille
If e.g Leningrad and Stalingrad could have been renamned, why are you so focused on keeping another artifical/unhistorical name?
Don't worry I'm not one of the Germans, who want the city back, but accepting the towns history won't hurt anyone or are you afraid of names/words?
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Alma Mater = caring mother.In Latin "alma" is "kind".
And now check out Turkish or Italian...
Been used as second name for University for hundreds of years.
BTW, I do know a little Latin.
Had it for nine years at school.
But thanks for the effort.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises
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That´s ok with me.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises
We have already got 2 major cities in Russia with German names: Saint-Petersburg and Yekaterinburg, first one founded by Peter the Great and second during Ekaterina's reign. We don't need third one.
Last edited by MilleVanille; 09-21-2009 at 06:37 PM.
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Some might have other ideas at the Kremlin, though.
"Welcome to Kaliningrad, President Putin."
Last edited by O'Sullivan Bere; 09-21-2009 at 07:30 PM.
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There is plenty of money in utilising history too.
The oblast still has numerous castles and other Prussian era architecture for interesting tourism purposes and cultural flavour. Also, reviving the tourism history of Svetlogorsk (Raushen) as a spa town along the same lines could be a tourism boost. Kaliningrad could work on quality and marketing to get the Immanuel Kant State University to inherit the legacy of the former University of Königsberg (Albertina) for international student interest. Tilsit cheese is famous as a style, and Sovetsk (Tilsit) could market that for cheese production just like some beer companies in the oblast already are attempting to do by using the area's history:
The Union of Russian Brewers. Konigsberg beer renews design
All these kinds of ideas and others can provide good marketing strategies for business at home and abroad and developing a very powerful regional draw and identity. That, plus the modern mixes of Soviet/Russian era aspects and the current residents, can provide an interesting cultural mixture and scene if done correctly.
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Since when irishes care that much about germany?
The photo that you posted here is a good example of constructivism, architectural style, invented by Russians, and now used worldwide. 95% of modern buildings are constructivistic.
Last edited by MilleVanille; 09-21-2009 at 08:28 PM.
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The oblast is not 'Germany' and it is not a part of Germany today. The oblast has its present character from its current people who arrived there from many parts of the former Soviet Union, and the area and the people are a product of that background plus the region's history, influences and designs that they inherited and share together. Simply put, the oblast is a product of the past and present in its people, places and things.
I like cultural experiences and travel and so do many people everywhere. I think the oblast has plenty of potential to offer in tourism, culture and other experiences considering its location, history, influences and assets if it is properly utilised.
Most of the world's buildings are neither constructivist-based nor was the idea of modern architecture founded by Russia, although constructivist architecture is one of many themes in the general topic of modern architectural styles and, depending on an architect and desired building, some themes of it might influence their designs just like any other of the hundreds of styles an architect can use or draw upon for inspiration.
On the private side, much of the Soviet era common business and neighbourhood resident stuff is unfortunately cheap and unattractive. On the public side, though, the Soviets did build some decent and impressive modern buildings, parks, metros, city centres, etc, in modern constructivist or Stalinist styles.
The House of the Soviets building, however, is a piece of shit and the city residents rightly call it 'the Monster.' It's not even functional, never mind ugly, because it is structurally unsound given they built it upon former tunnels of the Konigsberg Castle, many of which collapsed given the weight of the new building. They should have rebuilt the war damaged and left neglected castle instead, which is what many residents wanted to do until Brezhnev ordered it demolished over their objections to put that piece of shit up. The castle, if the Soviet authorities had wisely chosen to repair it, was something of architectural beauty and historical significance and would have been very useful today as a tourist and cultural asset for the city.
Going from this:
to that piece of crap was an architectural crime. And the residents who protested the move in the first place seem to know that:
http://www.visitkaliningrad.com/sights.htmlToday excavations take place to reveal preserved sub terrain parts of the castle. A decision to reconstruct the castle has been made, however there is no time for its planned inauguration.
Russian architecture, like most countries, does have its high points and contributions that are admired internationally.
Take architect Oleg Kopylov's Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Kaliningrad for example. It is a fusion of pre-Soviet Russo-Byzantine style fused with modern style.
That building is architecturally attractive and interesting. And, when you combine something like that with the historic Königsberg Cathedral of the traditional Prussian style that they wisely chose to rebuild:
it becomes pretty clear that how interesting a place Kaliningrad can be for cultural and tourist purposes if it properly utilises its unique history, culture and assets.
As for the Russo-Byzantine architectural style that arose in Imperial Russia, in my opinion, it's beautiful:
YouTube - Lara's Theme
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This is an alma mater:
An "alma mater" (=university) is like a mother nourishing her child with the milk of wisdom.
He humbled you, causing you to hunger and then feeding you with manna, which neither you nor your ancestors had known, to teach you that people do not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of the Lord.
His wife from here. He or mr. Medvedev coming soon to Kaliningrad."Welcome to Kaliningrad, President Putin."
Workers in Baltiysk are ready to picket mr. Medvedev on his way to military exercises near "Hmelevka".
They are not getting wages since June.
Last edited by Rustam Vasiliev; 09-22-2009 at 10:01 AM.
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Irish and German ?
Since about the mid 17 hundreds.
Read through the posts, you´ll find discourse and links.
In your second assumption you made a slight mistake.
Instead of "invented" it should read "copied".
Let´s stay with the facts, please, one Alma is more than enough in a thread.
Have a good night.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises
Joint Chiefs of Staff Member
But there is a third one:
Moos-kau
I do apologize for a bad attempt at joking, but I just couldn´t resist.
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises
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Indeed, a guaranteed way to get an angry and protesting public is them not getting paid.
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That is for little plonker, comrade MilleVanille.
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Re: Kaliningrad Oblast--its future
A few more Burg´s in Russia
Places in Russia that start with Burg
"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse
of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion.
The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner
as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion,
or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved." - Ludwig von Mises
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