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Old 04-08-2009
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Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

apparently not everyone was enamored by the Obama Turkish coffe klatche.


I personally think that Turkey should be in the EU, then again, I a not a European and if European PM’s etc. were all over us ala, say Puerto Rico joining the US as a state etc. I am not sure I would appreciate that either.


Turkey and the European Union: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

". ... He [Obama] should accept Turkey as America's 51st state instead," .... hehehe .... he has got a point there.
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

ehhh, I don't think Turkey should be part of the Union.
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

I am oppossed to Turkey joining both the EU, and the US Mal!
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Fascinating.

This issue is none of our business. Yet the current administration apparently believes it is appropriate to make controversial and mischievous pronouncements on a topic that is a serious one; this may produce real problems, but NOTHING is more important than political correctness. It is politically correct to assume that Turkey is European and must be in the EU - and oh boy, is this administration PC!

Obama loves to apologize for others. Now he can apologize for his own gaffe to the Germans, the French and everyone else.
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Obama loves to apologize for others. Now he can apologize for his own gaffe to the Germans, the French and everyone else.
you're dreaming, his wife is boffo and hes booked with Letterman next week and doing a VH1 concert form the WH...move on bro.
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

I think that was the joke Mal was making in his reply...i.e if we can lecture them on taking Turkey, they can try do the same to us.

Its not our place, like you said, and the policy of putting Turkey into the EU is something i disagree with completely.
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". ... He [Obama] should accept Turkey as America's 51st state instead," .... hehehe .... he has got a point there.
uhm, they still make hash there? if so I'll trade you Guam and an island to be named later for Turkey...
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No no, it fits better over there, see if they do try squeeze Turkey into the frying pan of Europe , sorry i mean, "not to melting" pot/bowl, at least they'll have Greece at the bottom of it to lube it in...like a freaking cavity search.
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why shouldn't turkey be in the EU?
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He is correct, Turkeys future is indeed in europe.

But not yet, until the cultural war in Turkey is resolved and Turkeys goes by our ways it has no future in the EU.

Apart from that issue, Turkey is a welcome member. It already plays in our football champions league.
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

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why shouldn't turkey be in the EU?
Geographic expansion of the EU is something that should be done with caution. And because of the open border policy within the EU, it give too many folks in Turkey the possibility of pushing as far west as the UK, Ireland, France and Spain without a problem. That is not good, for a continent already plagued by multi-cultralism.
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Apart from that issue, Turkey is a welcome member. It already plays in our football champions league.
So does Israel, they qualify for joining the EU too on those grounds?
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Geographic expansion of the EU is something that should be done with caution. And because of the open border policy within the EU, it give too many folks in Turkey the possibility of pushing as far west as the UK, Ireland, France and Spain without a problem. That is not good, for a continent already plagued by multi-cultralism.
wow. well, I am a mark steyn fan myself, BUT I feel if handled correctly, it would be a plus. Like it or not Turkey has one foot in Europe an done foot dangling on a perch with the ME, I think that serious, constructive diplomacy and some concessions by both would be beneficial as to allowing Turkey to become a member. Turkey has been a democracy longer than many of the eastern European nations etc.
They can be a bridge to other things other than just mass immigration. I do understand that, I live in California.
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Re: Obama Bashing in Bavaria and Paris

Yup, you are right, it is indeed, a balancing act. They do indeed have one fit in Europe and one in the ME....it is a problem.

But with the problems that Europe have with muslim extremism and the Turk's problems with the PK's, it gives a very easy entry for terrorists into mainstream Europe unfortunately.

And then the EU's policy towards Kuwait would have to change some too.
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