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Old 06-03-2009
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

Sure, they destroyed among other things, the greenhouses ( 12 million dollars worth) bought with private money by jews in the US and left intact for them as a peace offering. They started sending rockets and mortars over immediately...did I miss anything?
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

Israel is GODS chosen land and He protects his chosen people. Ancient and modern history has recorded this fact.

Israel is a island stuck in the middle of a demons sea and her island is shrinking.

Israel will have to stand up and defend herself like she has from the beginning of time. The difference is ideologies and no peace can ever be found in the Middle East!

Israel has no other choice but to defend herself, and she has never had another option or choice.

Israel, destroyed several modern day armies and their warriors in June of 1967, during the 6 day war. The 1967 Arab- Israeli War, the Third Arab-Israeli war!

The Arab states of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces.

The Israeli army stunned and embarrassed the Arab world with a overwhelming and decisive defeat of the entire Arab army in 6 days!!

They rested on the 7th day.

The world forgets so quickly, and we will see history repeated again and soon.

To what degree Israel protects herself is the unknown factor. Israel has the necessary modern day weapons of war to defend herself with. There is a reason she has been blessed to have our friendship and many Presidents have coddled her.

We also know Israel, will always use her best judgement and always look out for her own best interests!

The USA ‘her people’ should always stand beside of Israel regardless of what she ever has to do in the defense of herself. We are mutual friends and we have many common interests, and it is in our best interest to never be complacent. And it seems to be we are trying to distance ourselves away as a nation from Israel under this administration.

Israel will do, what Israel needs to do, when she needs to do it! Regardless of the USA.

Just like Israel always has!

Our President, seems to not understand just what exactly is taking place in the politics of the Middle East. He is still pandering and aligning US with the Arab world.

There is more than meets our eye!

If we remember, President Clinton predicted there will be no more armies, just peacekeeping forces. But the United States wound up in a war on terrorism. President Clinton also predicted no more wars, just peacekeeping operations, and we see Russian-Islamic forces threatening a invasion of Israel. N Korea is fueling this global fire as well and is a enemy to the United States. Clinton predicted the era of big government was over, but globalism and the secular progressives agenda is expanding.

President Bush predicted a comprehensive peace in the Middle east by the end of his 2nd term. He later backed off. Smart man!

There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the future, but we should always realize that there are many false prophets in the world and there will always be a myriad more when the Tribulation period arrives, especially in the “false church” and in Israel.

What church doctrine does our President actually follow or even believe?

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Old 06-04-2009
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

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Israel is GODS chosen land and He protects his chosen people. Ancient and modern history has recorded this fact.

Israel is a island stuck in the middle of a demons sea and her island is shrinking.

Israel will have to stand up and defend herself like she has from the beginning of time. The difference is ideologies and no peace can ever be found in the Middle East!

Israel has no other choice but to defend herself, and she has never had another option or choice.

Israel, destroyed several modern day armies and their warriors in June of 1967, during the 6 day war. The 1967 Arab- Israeli War, the Third Arab-Israeli war!

The Arab states of Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria also contributed troops and arms to the Arab forces.

The Israeli army stunned and embarrassed the Arab world with a overwhelming and decisive defeat of the entire Arab army in 6 days!!

They rested on the 7th day.

The world forgets so quickly, and we will see history repeated again and soon.

To what degree Israel protects herself is the unknown factor. Israel has the necessary modern day weapons of war to defend herself with. There is a reason she has been blessed to have our friendship and many Presidents have coddled her.

We also know Israel, will always use her best judgement and always look out for her own best interests!

The USA ‘her people’ should always stand beside of Israel regardless of what she ever has to do in the defense of herself. We are mutual friends and we have many common interests, and it is in our best interest to never be complacent. And it seems to be we are trying to distance ourselves away as a nation from Israel under this administration.

Israel will do, what Israel needs to do, when she needs to do it! Regardless of the USA.

Just like Israel always has!

Our President, seems to not understand just what exactly is taking place in the politics of the Middle East. He is still pandering and aligning US with the Arab world.

There is more than meets our eye!

If we remember, President Clinton predicted there will be no more armies, just peacekeeping forces. But the United States wound up in a war on terrorism. President Clinton also predicted no more wars, just peacekeeping operations, and we see Russian-Islamic forces threatening a invasion of Israel. N Korea is fueling this global fire as well and is a enemy to the United States. Clinton predicted the era of big government was over, but globalism and the secular progressives agenda is expanding.

President Bush predicted a comprehensive peace in the Middle east by the end of his 2nd term. He later backed off. Smart man!

There is nothing wrong with wanting to know the future, but we should always realize that there are many false prophets in the world and there will always be a myriad more when the Tribulation period arrives, especially in the “false church” and in Israel.

What church doctrine does our President actually follow or even believe?

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Tribulation period? Do you also think judgement is coming?
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

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Tribulation period? Do you also think judgement is coming?
No.

We are sometime away from that, depending on of course, a individuals own personal belief.

Such a narrow focus on the big picture.
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Old 06-05-2009
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No.

We are sometime away from that, depending on of course, a individuals own personal belief.

Such a narrow focus on the big picture.
Eh?

Isn't Judgement day THE big picture?
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Israel is GODS chosen land and He protects his chosen people. Ancient and modern history has recorded this fact.
Simply declaring yourself in verbal or written form does not make yourself "chosen". Every religion claims that its people are the chosen ones.


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Israel is a island stuck in the middle of a demons sea and her island is shrinking.
You bely some racism here, apparently you think arabs are demons? I think you should read Reel Bad Arabs for some insight into your own opinions about arabs.

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Israel will have to stand up and defend herself like she has from the beginning of time. The difference is ideologies and no peace can ever be found in the Middle East!
Israel has a right to defend itself, I agree. So do palestinians, to which you probably do not agree.
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Israel has no other choice but to defend herself, and she has never had another option or choice.
Israel has been offered full recognition by all arab countries and is rejecting it as we speak. The best defense for Israel is a 2 state solution.

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Israel, destroyed several modern day armies and their warriors in June of 1967, during the 6 day war. The 1967 Arab- Israeli War, the Third Arab-Israeli war!
Calling the arab armies "modern day armies" is akin to suggesting that Iraq's army posed a formidable resistance to US invasion. They were poorly equipped with second-hand russian weaponry. The arabs lost those wars before they were started because the person deciding to enter them was a fool.

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We also know Israel, will always use her best judgement and always look out for her own best interests!
Apparently Israel's judgement includes bombing UN compounds with white phospherous munitions.

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The USA ‘her people’ should always stand beside of Israel regardless of what she ever has to do in the defense of herself.
The USA should stand by its own principles and best interests above all else.

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Our President, seems to not understand just what exactly is taking place in the politics of the Middle East. He is still pandering and aligning US with the Arab world.
I would say he understands it better than any other president we have had. You can not have peace in the middle-east until the US becomes more moderated in its moderation of a peace deal. By showing respect to the arab world while at the same time reiterating US support of Israel, he is starting to do what he has done his whole career, bring opposing parties together.

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What church doctrine does our President actually follow or even believe?
I don't believe the constitution of the US states that the president should be making decisions based on church doctrine.
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

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Eh?

Isn't Judgement day THE big picture?
Such narrow focus. I asked 1 question, and I have gotten 3 questions in return.

You are way ahead of yourself!

Please start from the beginning, and use a much broader perspective.
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Re: Israel rejects US call to stop settlement construction

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Simply declaring yourself in verbal or written form does not make yourself "chosen". Every religion claims that its people are the chosen ones.




You bely some racism here, apparently you think arabs are demons? I think you should read Reel Bad Arabs for some insight into your own opinions about arabs.


Israel has a right to defend itself, I agree. So do palestinians, to which you probably do not agree.


Israel has been offered full recognition by all arab countries and is rejecting it as we speak. The best defense for Israel is a 2 state solution.



Calling the arab armies "modern day armies" is akin to suggesting that Iraq's army posed a formidable resistance to US invasion. They were poorly equipped with second-hand russian weaponry. The arabs lost those wars before they were started because the person deciding to enter them was a fool.



Apparently Israel's judgement includes bombing UN compounds with white phospherous munitions.



The USA should stand by its own principles and best interests above all else.


I would say he understands it better than any other president we have had. You can not have peace in the middle-east until the US becomes more moderated in its moderation of a peace deal. By showing respect to the arab world while at the same time reiterating US support of Israel, he is starting to do what he has done his whole career, bring opposing parties together.



I don't believe the constitution of the US states that the president should be making decisions based on church doctrine.
Such great difference's in Ideologies.

I have 'nothing' to discuss with you.

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Such great difference's in Ideologies.

I have 'nothing' to discuss with you.

Good day.
America is founded on the meeting of different ideologies, thats what makes it a great country. This is a discussion forum, not a "post my ideology and cover my ears" forum.
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Such narrow focus. I asked 1 question, and I have gotten 3 questions in return.

You are way ahead of yourself!

Please start from the beginning, and use a much broader perspective.
What do you mean? Where exactly would you like me to start?
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This is a discussion forum, not a "post my ideology and cover my ears" forum.
You must not have much experience on internet forums!
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Simply declaring yourself in verbal or written form does not make yourself "chosen". Every religion claims that its people are the chosen ones.




You bely some racism here, apparently you think arabs are demons? I think you should read Reel Bad Arabs for some insight into your own opinions about arabs.


Israel has a right to defend itself, I agree. So do palestinians, to which you probably do not agree.


Israel has been offered full recognition by all arab countries and is rejecting it as we speak. The best defense for Israel is a 2 state solution.



Calling the arab armies "modern day armies" is akin to suggesting that Iraq's army posed a formidable resistance to US invasion. They were poorly equipped with second-hand russian weaponry. The arabs lost those wars before they were started because the person deciding to enter them was a fool.



Apparently Israel's judgement includes bombing UN compounds with white phospherous munitions.



The USA should stand by its own principles and best interests above all else.


I would say he understands it better than any other president we have had. You can not have peace in the middle-east until the US becomes more moderated in its moderation of a peace deal. By showing respect to the arab world while at the same time reiterating US support of Israel, he is starting to do what he has done his whole career, bring opposing parties together.



I don't believe the constitution of the US states that the president should be making decisions based on church doctrine.
All good points. It's unfortunate the ideologues cannot address them.
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You must not have much experience on internet forums!
Hehe, sadly, I do, but I have a short memory
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Isreal good, its neighbors bad. Brevity good.
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America is founded on the meeting of different ideologies, thats what makes it a great country. This is a discussion forum, not a "post my ideology and cover my ears" forum.
I can post my ideology, it is inline with many other Americans, even if they don’t care to discuss it.

I have earned the right to do so!

There are many that wish to see this freedom disappear as well.

When there is something of substance to discuss, I will gladly discuss it.

I have chased my tail trying to understand your ideology for many years. I have listened to many others, on both sides try to do so as well.

We still end up chasing our tails, we didn’t accomplish anything then, and we will accomplish nothing now. I also don’t pander and I don’t concede!

I will not change or conform my beliefs and ideology!

You won’t change yours, fact!

Where does this leave us, here or globally?

Also, America was founded on belief, faith, hope and determination, grit, will, sacrifice and desire, and we only followed and served one GOD as a nation as a majority. This is the same GOD of Israel! The exact same GOD! That sir is what built America, and made my America so great and in that alone, we became the light of hope to the world!

Well, atleast up until a few generations ago we did worship the same GOD.

Now we must be all inclusive and accepting of 'all' other GODS!

That light is fading, and your ideology helps it fade.

We are a melting pot of smut now, the iron and carbon mix has been slowly exchanged for pewter.

Once again, good day.
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