beyond clueless.....

watch the vid..

Hot Air Blog Archive Video: Biden on Iran

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

Now--com'on--you just witnessed what happened in Iraq--while for years you've been slamming Bush for doing what you are trying to suggest now. We go into Iran--there will be a bloodbath of civilians just like we saw in Iraq. It would be an even longer occupation--costing us billions of dollars & lost American lives.

We just witnessed 63% of Iran voting for the guy--who states "death" to Isreal, & America is the "devil.' I don't think that was a freak accident--or voter fraud. That's way too many to suggest fraud.

To Obama supporters!
Welcome too middle-eastern foreign policy--101.

If ya'll actually want to believe that the majority voted for Ahmadinejad I'll let you to your naive conclusions. It's a complete and utter sham of a joke election. What in the history of this kind of setup has led anyone to believe they actually had elections.

You all do realize that Saddam always received 100% of the votes, right?

I saw nothing wrong with what Biden said. In fact, I was worried he WOULD say too much. He was cautious, which is EXACTLY what he needed to be right now. If the U.S. is seen as overtly taking Mousavi's side then we will have rang the death knell in the reformists' efforts to undermine Ahmadinejad and potentially discount the election.

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well my point was that he is , well clueless as in his remarks about addy and what he thought back then, do we need to add his inablity to be able to parse for instance whom is in lebanon and what part they play etc. ? I hope Obama has more insight but well, we'll see.

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

How was he clueless?

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uhm what? I need to explain and verbalize the vid for you? Ala his remarks as to addys survival?

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

How was that clueless? Every serious Iran analyst was saying the exact same thing, and with good reason. And the fact that he was challenged by someone like Mousavi and that the ruling forces decided to rig the election only bears that out.

Nothing clueless there.

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It's wonderful that you demonstrate nothing but ignorance about the situation and then try to belittle others about knowledge of foreign policy.

You must be someone pretending to be on the far right, it's hard to believe anyone is that dumb.

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There is no way that was a legitimate election.

I hope the people keep riotting so this regime of traitors goes down and will face justice.

I understand it is hard to riot. Iranian revolutionary guard will not hesitate to kill everyone in a riot if they have to eventually. Try to keep up your courage to go to the streets when that happens....

Exactly--or specifically--what is it that makes you 100% certain that the Iranian vote statistics are wrong, & that the election was nothing but fraud.

State your case:

Don't refer to me as ignorant: I am certain I have been around a lot longer than you--& know much more than you do about middle-eastern foreign policy.

For ONCE back up your mouth--& give me some FACTS--something more than just talk from pissed off Iranians who lost--that will convince someone that this election was a grand fraud.

iow--Put up or shut up.

Do you think if it was legitimate, it would be so busy with protesting people in the streets?

Almost all young people voted for Moussavi. And the mean age in Iran is 27.

Do you have numbers to back up your claims that it was a legitimate election?

Do you have numbers from an independent research or international observers report?

No you do not. Cause there are none.

I just watched Iranian state television,

they are reporting one a taekwondo win over turkey in some stupid ass tournament, and some bullshit cleric talking about religion on the other.

While all over cnn it's about the protests...

So 96% of votes for the former rulers of communist countries were, according to your conclusion, "way too many to suggest fraud"


I guess, logic is not among your strongest points.

But by all means, do correct me if I´m wrong.

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