To my mind, the nation of Israel pursues a national socialist agenda. The radical jews see themselves as a superior and chosen people. They have a god-goven mission to anihilate their neighbouring peoples and colonize their homeland. I also doubt that to most of those colonists, killing a palestinian would be something worth making a fuss about. These radical jews are national socialists in many aspects, except perhaps that they worship a roll of paper instead of an austrian and that they are either too smart or too coward to let their mask fail.

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Im Grabe schlummert ein neues Morgenrot.

There are radicals in every society. What does that have to do with the discussion?

Are you serious?

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Democrats, finding new ways to destroy wealth for over 100 years.

Well, what about it? Do you want global socialism or not?

I realize I'm new here, but I most certainly have posted enough material for you to get a feel for my ideological positions, if you really cared to.

I'd be happy to have a meaningful discussion with you, but I am not very likely to respond to stupid questions. M'kay?

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Democrats, finding new ways to destroy wealth for over 100 years.

The Palestinians have historically and currently lived in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, and parts of Egypt, but mostly centered in what is called Israel and Palestine.

They have lived there for over 4 thousands years, and were there before the Hebrew tribes wandered in from the desert.

And it is pretty hard to "peacefully coexist" with people who are living in your home, after driving you out with death threats.

If Palestinians wanted to kill Jews, then no Jews would have ever been able to slowly immigrate and build up the Jewish population as they did.
Obviously the claim that Arabs or Muslims have any sort of animosity towards Jews, is a lie. There are over 30,000 Jews living peacefulling in Iran, and that proves there is no inherent problem.

The question was answered many times.
Once Palestine is a sovereign nation, then there should be rights for everyone, such as the right to vote, property rights, international rights, UN representation, etc.
Then the UN would have to deal with the "right of return", and the fact Israel is far beyond its 1948 borders.
This should force Israel to negotiate, and to allow Arabs back to their homes in Israel. Whether they then vote to end Israel or not, would be up to them.

Do you actually believe that?

Good grief man, can't you answer a simple question? What do you want to happen to the Jewish people, should they be voted out? Sheesh, you tap dance better than Fred Astaire.

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Democrats, finding new ways to destroy wealth for over 100 years.

There can be no doubt that Muslims have always protected Jews as close cousins, being both son's of Abraham, and sharing the Old Testament.

What do I want to happen to the Jewish people?
Nothing.
Those in Israel should become Palestinian citizens if the country were to vote for the name change.
But clearly a lot of homes would have to be given back or paid for.
I think the European Jewish immigrants of the last half century bring economic opportunity to Palestine, and would be useful citizens.
It is just that there must be no special Jewish or Muslim state.
There must only be secular states when there is any mixture of religions.

So do you or do you not want to give US government aid to Israel?

I'll probably regret this, but, yes I do.

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Democrats, finding new ways to destroy wealth for over 100 years.

Why do you want to give US aid to Israel?
They have a higher standard of living then we do.
They will never actually negotiate for peace, when we only keep paying them for war and giving them free weapons.
Aid to Israel makes no sense at all.
They should be paying us back and giving us aid now when we need it.

1. My point was that Netanyahus approach to try it both ways, to keep the settlements and basically the occupation ( because what else is israeli control over airspace, borders and settlements supposed to mean ) AND talk about peace most definitely has no chance of working. And that several international treaties that Israel signed ( and countless UN resolutions) oblige them to make certain steps that they are refusing.

2. To remove 9000 settlers who occupied 40 % of the territory while 1,5 million Palestinians shared the rest was certainly the right thing to do. To fence 1,5 million people in with basically no means to make any living and seal them off from the world produced a predictable outcome. ( also predicted by israeli analysts).

3. The same was said about the PLO , prior to the Oslo accords, right ?
And if the countries of the arab league signed peace treaties with Israel, Hamas would become irrelevant. Israel would also have the opportunity to demand security guarantees from countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt who have influence on Hamas.
There is no plausible reason not to take the arab offer at least as the base for negotiations and not to do it now. But both Israelis and Palestinians are extremely good at missing chances.....

In other words, you support global socialism, yes?

Ummmmm, no. I support foreign aid to our only democratic ally in the Middle East. That's a far cry from global socialism.

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Democrats, finding new ways to destroy wealth for over 100 years.

So much for the taxpayer.

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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Guess who?

Why do you support foreign aid to a country that has a higher standard of living then we do, that has violated countless UN resolutions, spied on the US, violated the nuclear nonproliferation treaty (which they refused to sign), and has cause us a lot of enemies?