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Re: Netanyahu's speech on israeli "peace" policy

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So much for the taxpayer.
I don't get it.

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Why do you support foreign aid to a country that has a higher standard of living then we do, that has violated countless UN resolutions, spied on the US, violated the nuclear nonproliferation treaty (which they refused to sign), and has cause us a lot of enemies?
Wait, wait, don't tell me..........because I'm stoopid?
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Re: Netanyahu's speech on israeli "peace" policy

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I don't get it.


Wait, wait, don't tell me..........because I'm stoopid?
So much for the poor American taxpayer that you want them to pay $3billion + per year for a little country that plainly takes you for granted while it continues to do as it pleases.



Youre not stupid by any means, but youve been told alot of tales by your peer group and maybe various sites on the web without delving in to all sides in this issue. This is understanable as it is quite a complicated thing and we all have many different and varied interests in our lives.
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Re: Netanyahu's speech on israeli "peace" policy

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Ummmmm, no. I support foreign aid to our only democratic ally in the Middle East. That's a far cry from global socialism.
Well, your average liberal supports giving welfare to Americans. You know, OUR citizens. You, on the other hand, one-up them and support socialism on an International scale, giving handouts to foreigners.
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Re: Netanyahu's speech on israeli "peace" policy

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Well, your average liberal supports giving welfare to Americans. You know, OUR citizens. You, on the other hand, one-up them and support socialism on an International scale, giving handouts to foreigners.
Alrighty then.
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So much for the poor American taxpayer that you want them to pay $3billion + per year for a little country that plainly takes you for granted while it continues to do as it pleases.
Lemme see if I unnerstand, you are decrying 3 billion dollars in foreign aid to our only democratic ally in the Middle East, but you support the current administration's spending spree which puts us well over two trillion dollars in debt? It's good to know you've got your priorities straight.
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Alrighty then.
So you are socialist and a liberal? Just trying to get a gist of your position.
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There can be no doubt that Muslims have always protected Jews as close cousins, being both son's of Abraham, and sharing the Old Testament.

What do I want to happen to the Jewish people?
Nothing.
Those in Israel should become Palestinian citizens if the country were to vote for the name change.
But clearly a lot of homes would have to be given back or paid for.
I think the European Jewish immigrants of the last half century bring economic opportunity to Palestine, and would be useful citizens.
It is just that there must be no special Jewish or Muslim state.
There must only be secular states when there is any mixture of religions.
I don't think letting them stay is an option they are living on land owned by a palestinian which he was evicted by the IDF. It would be unacceptable to let people who just grabbed land to keep it. These people are thieves, they should be removed.

It wouldn't work with them staying there would be civil war within months and Israel would not stand by idly. Actually there would be some vested interests to start it...

Israel Defense Force , Hamas and Hezbollah all have no morals between them anyone defending any of them should be ashamed of them selves. They have all targeted civilians on purpose. The IDF and Hezbollah have shot and killed UN forces there...
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To date, UNIFIL has suffered 258 fatalities: 249 military personnel, 2 military observers, 3 international civilian staff, and 4 local staff.[79] Fatalities by nationality include Belgium: 4, Fiji: 35, Finland: 11, France: 30, Ghana: 29, India: 2, Iran: 1, Ireland: 47, Italy: 6, Lebanon: 6, Malaysia: 1, Nepal: 25, Netherlands: 9, Nigeria: 10, Norway: 21, Philippines: 1, Poland: 7, Senegal: 16, Spain: 7, Sweden: 7, United Kingdom: 3
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I asked a guy one day what the hell he we were doing there. He put it this way. If they don't stand on the wall every day the IDF will attack and take that village like in Palestine and we would have to back and protect the next village.
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So you are socialist and a liberal? Just trying to get a gist of your position.
Since you cannot seem to locate my profile, I'll do you the courtesy of an answer, this one time.

I am a Christian conservative, and a registered Republican.

Does that mean I am in lock step with the Republican Party? Absolutely not.

There ya go.

Lemme ask you a personal question, why do you fly the Russian flag? Are you from Russia?
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Since you cannot seem to locate my profile, I'll do you the courtesy of an answer, this one time.

I am a Christian conservative, and a registered Republican.

Does that mean I am in lock step with the Republican Party? Absolutely not.
In other words, you are a Christian conservative who is strongly socialistic where the economy is concerned?
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There ya go.

Lemme ask you a personal question, why do you fly the Russian flag? Are you from Russia?
Originally, yes.
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In other words, you are a Christian conservative who is strongly socialistic where the economy is concerned?
Originally, yes.
I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by grilling me Slon, but it is getting rather tiresome.

I am not a socialist in any way, shape, or form, end of story.

Did you live in the U.S.S.R.?
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I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish by grilling me Slon, but it is getting rather tiresome.

I am not a socialist in any way, shape, or form, end of story.
So, let me get this straight. You support giving welfare to foreigners, but not to Americans?
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The USSR has not existed for quite some time.
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So, let me get this straight. You support giving welfare to foreigners, but not to Americans?

The USSR has not existed for quite some time.
You'll just have to follow my posts to figure it out buddy, I'm done with your interrogation. I'm sure regulars who know you are snickering at me for playing along for this long.

I am not sure what the Soviet Union not having been around for a long time has to do with you ever having lived there. Are you a youngun?
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You'll just have to follow my posts to figure it out buddy, I'm done with your interrogation.
You said, "I support foreign aid to our only democratic ally in the Middle East." Either you are a socialist and also support giving welfare to Americans, or you consider Israelis to be more important than Americans and feel the US government should help them to a much greater extent than it helps Americans. I can't think of an alternative.
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I am not sure what the Soviet Union not having been around for a long time has to do with you ever having lived there. Are you a youngun?
Yes, I did live there. I misread the question.
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I can't think of an alternative.
Try harder.
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Try harder.
That's why I asked you for your position on it. Why do you claim to oppose socialism, and why do you support giving aid to Israel? Opposing socialism is understandable, and I oppose it, too. I don't think people should be given free money just because they're incompetent. Likewise, if Israel is incapable of supporting itself, why should it get welfare? Just because it cluster bombs civilians and is an "ally" on paper? Even if the welfare didn't cost us anything, it would still probably be more trouble than it's worth to give them the aid and piss off their enemies.

And yet, you apparently oppose giving American aid to needy Americans, while supporting giving aid to bloodthirsty foreigners at likely diplomatic expense to us? That's why I'm trying to determine your reasons.
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Re: Netanyahu's speech on israeli "peace" policy

You assume too much, and are putting words into my mouth. I don't see how you can extrapolate all of that simply because I said I was in favor of foreign aid to Israel.

Additionally, you're the one buying into the liberal propaganda about the Israelis. Does that make you a socialist? After all, you are from the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Either that, or, you're anti-Semitic. Are you some kind of Jew hater?
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