Really? As the child of a South American immigrant, I find this a refreshing departure from past policy.

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i feel like reality's last post kinda ends the debate for me.

right there, in the constitution: the shit was legal, and we have no right to tell them it wasn't.

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hey man it was just the article, don't look at me.

but but but Mr Chavez doesn't LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT MEANS ITS BAD O NOES!!111

Oh. I missed where you stopped and the article started.

Mr. Chavez and every other government in the world?

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An interesting article. Thanks.

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yeah i was kinda pressed for time when i wrote that. its a bit confusing.


every other government is going along with it for a few reasons
1)chavez has a shit ton of countries over the barrel pounding them long and strong with no lube (oil barrel)
2)some are pissed that there isn't a new dictatorship
3)some are pissed that guns were involved period cause guns are bad, wicked, evil creations that only ever cause terrible problems for all of us and make the baby jesus cry. silly hippies trix are for kids.
4) some are retarded and feel that since they didn't immediately come out with an opinion on the last political turmoil (iran) that they must immediately and without knowing what theyre talking about come out with a position here. see obama and clintion.

uh oh, time for a hard astern, both sides of the issue announcement from Obama??

some snips....

Rep. Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.), chairman of a key House subcommittee with jurisdiction over Honduras, roundly criticized both factions at a Friday hearing. But he also stopped short of calling for Zelaya’s immediate reinstatement, which he’d done in previous statements.

While Engel said the United States and its allies in the Western Hemisphere could not tolerate what appeared to be a military coup, he said Zelaya had ignored his country’s own Supreme Court, legislature and even members of his political party when he sought to change the constitution by seeking a second term as president.

“When the entire political establishment speaks and expresses dire concerns, the President needed to listen. From everything I can see, he did not,” Engel said during the hearing of his House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere.
In a statement on June 29, a day after Zelaya was removed, Engel called for Zelaya’s immediate reinstatement.



As The Hill reported Friday, the Honduran branch of CEAL, the Latin American equivalent of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, has hired Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe to lobby on its behalf in Washington.

Firm partner Lanny Davis, a former special counsel to President Bill Clinton and supporter of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential run, is representing CEAL and testified at Engel’s hearing Friday.

In his opening statement, Davis said his client supports the mediation process but that “they believe that no one is above the law — including the President — under the Honduran Constitution, just as no one is above the law under the U.S. Constitution.”



In an interview Thursday, Engel said Zelaya would be returned to power if the mediation process now established, under the guidance of Costa Rican President Oscar Arias, was allowed to take its course, but that under the constitution he should not be allowed to run for a second term.



TheHill.com - Honduras government gains ground with Congress

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

now this is just stupid. why do they have to go report to our senators? why is there a subcommittee with 'jurisdiction over honduras"? this is not how a sovereign nation acts. they need to just tell everyone to fuck off and mind their own damn business

Fifteen years ago, in September 1994, U.S. troops invaded Haiti and Jean-Bertrand Aristide was restored to power and an oppressive military regime was ousted.

Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was overthrown June 28 by the military. Obama has repeatedly called for Zelaya's return to power. A group of liberal lawmakers urged President Obama to do more to reverse the coup in Honduras. "We are … increasingly concerned by the many reports of flagrant human rights violations that are being committed under the current de facto regime," said a letter to the president, which was signed by Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, and 16 fellow members of the caucus.

Are you suggesting that we invade?

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Nicaragua will do it for us.

Lolwhat.

On what exactly do you base that expert analysis?

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Was probably a joke.

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Even if Mr. Micheletti manages to pull off new elections, the results would be viewed as illegitimate by the Organization of American States, Washington and the Latin American governments. Mr. Obama rightly pointed out, Mr. Zelaya was democratically elected. The US condemned the coup and suspended about $18 million in mostly military and development aid but held off on imposing more drastic penalties, like withdrawing Washington’s ambassador to Tegucigalpa or freezing the bank accounts, as some Democrats in Congress have urged.

The United States must be prepared to exert military pressure.