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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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You realize I'm kidding, right? Not about what happened to Japanese Americans, that really sucked, but that we should do that to Venezuelan Americans. I'm sure they're not all a-holes.
Yeah, I thought you were kidding, but I wasn't sure.

Edit: you should be more careful when it comes to jokes like that. It always leaves you with the risk of someone being able to quote you directly and claim you're a bigot. Pointing out that it was taken out of context never sounds good.

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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

Why not? Let them squander their fortune building an army instead of an infrastructure and further enriching the citizens of their country. Eventually the citizenry of Venezuela will catch on it's a bad idea.
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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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All kidding aside, though, is this not eerily similar to North Korea? Using "The US is a boogeyman that will attack us soon" as an excuse to build up a pointlessly strong military using Soviet technology?
Yep, and I would not be suprised to see it all end up the same way as well.
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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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I say let's start a concentration camp for Venuzuelans in America like we did for Japanese Americans. I have a BIL who is from Venezuela and he's a total A-Hole. That would be a good way to get rid of him.
Send him to Germany.
We still need a lot of street sweepers.
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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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Yeah, I thought you were kidding, but I wasn't sure.

Edit: you should be more careful when it comes to jokes like that. It always leaves you with the risk of someone being able to quote you directly and claim you're a bigot. Pointing out that it was taken out of context never sounds good.
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Old 08-06-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

Dear God in heaven!!!
WTF?? Buying Russian arms??
Son of a Bitch...while this Putin guy rides around topless on a horse he has people so hungry they are selling their arms!!???
WHat in the...what...oh.
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Old 08-30-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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*ring ring* this is reality calling Donkey.

If you honestly think the United States and Venezuela face the same strategic threats, and therefore somehow warrant the same abount of defence spending and technology, then you are more far gone than I originally thought.

Venezuela faces absolutly no strategic threat that would warrant the arms deals, and the rhetoric, we have seen them make recently.
So you think that every bit of US military spending is necessary and efficient?
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Old 08-30-2009
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Send him to Germany.
We still need a lot of street sweepers.
You are a nation of neat-freaks.

I'm hoping to live there for a while and I'm planning to drop at least one piece of litter every day just to freak you guys out.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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So you think that every bit of US military spending is necessary and efficient?
A bit off topic, but no.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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A bit off topic, but no.
I would say it is a big NO. Ludicrous amounts spent on unnecessary bullshit, indeed. Should be the military's motto if they were honest about it.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

Why by expensive weapons we can destroy with a push of a button?

It's just as easy to take them over with outdated weapons as it would be if they were throwing rocks at us (not that we want to).
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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I would say it is a big NO. Ludicrous amounts spent on unnecessary bullshit, indeed. Should be the military's motto if they were honest about it.
Souldn't it be more of a motto for useless politicans and their try to please lobbyists and their "voters"?

I mean, I haven't served in the US-military, but (for me) a true and professional soldier will serve no matter what his equipment is like, so don't blame the military for "elected" fuckhead's decissons and wasting of taxpayers money.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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Souldn't it be more of a motto for useless politicans and their try to please lobbyists and their "voters"?

I mean, I haven't served in the US-military, but (for me) a true and professional soldier will serve no matter what his equipment is like, so don't blame the military for "elected" fuckhead's decissons and wasting of taxpayers money.

I'll never agree that advancing technology is a waste of taxpayers money.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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I'll never agree that advancing technology is a waste of taxpayers money.
That would depend on the technology, wouldn't it? And besides, you don't need to build numerous operational models of a technology in order to advance it. You can advance it with it being recorded and at most tested by building a prototype.
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Old 08-31-2009
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Re: Venezuela buying more Russian arms

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I'll never agree that advancing technology is a waste of taxpayers money.
Is advancing technolgy a "mission" in/for itself for the military/government in your opinion?

In my opinion it's not, but as the main topic of the thread are Venezuealean arm deals, it's truely off topic.

Anyway Hugo seems to be just wasting his citizens (tax) money and no matter how much he'll spend, it won't be enough to get any decent, modern military.
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