its only a continued instability is based on someone taking the law, into their own hands.

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yes, I certainly can see how folks would want this loon to run their country....

They're torturing me, Honduras' Manuel Zelaya claims
Honduras' fallen leader told The Miami Herald he is being subjected to mind-altering gas and radiation -- and that `Israeli mercenaries' are planning to assassinate him.



TEGUCIGALPA -- It's been 89 days since Manuel Zelaya was booted from power. He's sleeping on chairs, and he claims his throat is sore from toxic gases and ``Israeli mercenaries'' are torturing him with high-frequency radiation.

``We are being threatened with death,'' he said in an interview with The Miami Herald, adding that mercenaries were likely to storm the embassy where he has been holed up since Monday and assassinate him.

``I prefer to march on my feet than to live on my knees before a military dictatorship,'' Zelaya said in a series of back-to-back interviews.

They're torturing me, Honduras' Manuel Zelaya claims - Honduras - MiamiHerald.com

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BIG, BIG mistake. They have allowed themselves to be stampeded. It doesn’t appear as if the street violence had created any real threat or was gaining general traction in fact it appeared to be the opposite after months he was till getting very small crowds and they were looters etc. . But then again I am not there and news is scant.

The US has already done what they should be doing NOW that they have suspended the press etc. IF this country goes over into civil war etc. once again we can thank the US for playing a stupid game and refusing to see spade for a spade.


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TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — The de facto government that's in power in Honduras closed down television and radio stations Monday morning that are aligned with ousted President Manuel Zelaya.

Zelaya condemned the action in a brief statement and called on foreign governments to show their displeasure.

"The government is nervous," Carlos Montoya, formerly a senior member of Zelaya's government, said in an interview. "We don't want violence. We're asking for dialogue."

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The de facto government that took power here three months ago suspended constitutional civil liberties late Sunday in an attempt to keep the supporters of ousted President Manuel Zelaya off the streets Monday.

Zelaya, holed up at the Brazilian Embassy with about 70 supporters and journalists after his clandestine return to Honduras a week ago, called on his supporters on Monday to launch “a final offensive.”

It’s not clear whether Zelaya meant this as a show of support or an effort to cause the de facto government of President Roberto Micheletti to buckle and allow Zelaya to return to power.
The decree could allow the government to shut down pro-Zelaya radio and TV stations and arrest his supporters at will. Sunday night’s decree indicates a hardening line by the Micheletti government, which refused to allow four diplomats earlier in the day to enter Honduras. They were from the Washington, D.C.-based Organization of American States and had come to Honduras to organize an upcoming OAS mission.



Honduras suspends civil liberties, closes media stations | McClatchy

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Looks like the opposition has overplayed its hand.

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LOL this is the nutcase Obama and Hillary support. It's obvious why he was ousted and sent packing, he's a frigging loon; a very good reason to dump him, legal or not.

all these 'players', the U.S., Brazil, Chavez, etc., etc. should just butt the hell out and leave it alone. Honduras is perfectly capable of handling this themselves.

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"A day without sunshine is, you know, night."- Shannon

They sure are.

BBC NEWS | Americas | Dozens of Zelaya supporters held

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The latest from Honduras:

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The Raw Story | Jailed Honduran farmers on hunger strike for Zelaya

Well, here it is, an on the ground look. Yes Demint is a rep. which I guess in some eyes will disqualify his view, but it cannot disqualify the facts.


What I Heard in Honduras
Our ambassador is the only person I met there

Tegucigalpa

In the last three months, much has been made of a supposed military "coup" that whisked former Honduran President Manuel Zelaya from power and the supposed chaos it has created.

After visiting Tegucigalpa last week and meeting with a cross section of leaders from Honduras's government, business community, and civil society, I can report there is no chaos there. There is, however, chaos to spare in the Obama administration's policy toward our poor and loyal allies in Honduras.

That policy was set in a snap decision the day Mr. Zelaya was removed from office, without a full assessment of either the facts or reliable legal analysis of the constitutional provisions at issue. Three months later, it remains in force, despite mounting evidence of its moral and legal incoherence.

While in Honduras, I spoke to dozens of Hondurans, from nonpartisan members of civil society to former Zelaya political allies, from Supreme Court judges to presidential candidates and even personal friends of Mr. Zelaya. Each relayed stories of a man changed and corrupted by power. The evidence of Mr. Zelaya's abuses of presidential power—and his illegal attempts to rewrite the Honduran Constitution, a la Hugo Chávez—is not only overwhelming but uncontroverted.

As all strong democracies do after cleansing themselves of usurpers, Honduras has moved on.

The presidential election is on schedule for Nov. 29. Under Honduras's one-term-limit, Mr. Zelaya could not have sought re-election anyway. Current President Roberto Micheletti—who was installed after Mr. Zelaya's removal, per the Honduran Constitution—is not on the ballot either. The presidential candidates were nominated in primary elections almost a year ago, and all of them—including Mr. Zelaya's former vice president—expect the elections to be free, fair and transparent, as has every Honduran election for a generation.

Indeed, the desire to move beyond the Zelaya era was almost universal in our meetings. Almost.

In a day packed with meetings, we met only one person in Honduras who opposed Mr. Zelaya's ouster, who wishes his return, and who mystifyingly rejects the legitimacy of the November elections: U.S. Ambassador Hugo Llorens.

When I asked Ambassador Llorens why the U.S. government insists on labeling what appears to the entire country to be the constitutional removal of Mr. Zelaya a "coup," he urged me to read the legal opinion drafted by the State Department's top lawyer, Harold Koh. As it happens, I have asked to see Mr. Koh's report before and since my trip, but all requests to publicly disclose it have been denied.

On the other hand, the only thorough examination of the facts to date—conducted by a senior analyst at the Law Library of Congress—confirms the legality and constitutionality of Mr. Zelaya's ouster. (It's on the Internet here .)

Unlike the Obama administration's snap decision after June 28, the Law Library report is grounded in the facts of the case and the intricacies of Honduran constitutional law. So persuasive is the report that after its release, the New Republic's James Kirchick concluded in an Oct. 3 article that President Obama's hastily decided Honduras policy is now "a mistake in search of a rationale."

The Hondurans I met agree. All everyone seemed to want was a chance to make their case, or at least an independent review of the facts.

So far, the Obama administration has ignored these requests and instead has repeatedly doubled down. It's revoked the U.S. travel visas of President Micheletti, his government and private citizens, and refuses to talk to the government in Tegucigalpa. It's frozen desperately needed financial assistance to one of the poorest and friendliest U.S. allies in the region. It won't release the legal basis for its insistence on Mr. Zelaya's restoration to power. Nor has it explained why it's setting aside America's longstanding policy of supporting free elections to settle these kinds of disputes.

But these elections are the only way out—a fact even the Obama administration must see. The Honduran constitution prohibits Zelaya's return to power. The election date is set by law for Nov. 29. The elections will be monitored by international observers and overseen by an apolitical body, the Supreme Electoral Tribunal, whose impartiality and independence has been roundly praised, even by Ambassador Llorens.

America's Founding Fathers—like the framers of Honduras's own constitution—believed strong institutions were necessary to defend freedom and democracy from the ambitions of would-be tyrants and dictators. Faced by Mr. Zelaya's attempted usurpations, the institutions of Honduran democracy performed as designed, and as our own Founding Fathers would have hoped.

Hondurans are therefore left scratching their heads. They know why Hugo Chávez, Daniel Ortega and the Castro brothers oppose free elections and the removal of would-be dictators, but they can't understand why the Obama administration does.

They're not the only ones.

Jim DeMint: What I Heard in Honduras - WSJ.com

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Well, yeah, actually, you're right. The fact that it comes from a inanely partisan and consistently wrong source like the WSJ editorial section makes me inclined to dismiss it rather than wade through the bullshit.

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Oh wow, you have something to say? Feel free to do so, or is this just the usual hit and run , “it sux, you’re all right wing hacks … I built some houses and I know what goes down, I am your geo – political expert”.:…whatever,,,how about some meat with those potatoes? Or is that to big a job?

You gonna run away from this like the last discussion we had ala Colombia? You’re alllllllllllll smoke dude. Give it a rest why don’t you. Or like actually *gasp* bring something to the table.

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I've never built a house. Don't know what you're babbling about.


Which conversation are you referring to?

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Well whats left now? Zelaya objected to the drapes in the president’s office and he is deserves redress? Obama? Hillary?

Any reason to maintain this charade? The Law Library of Congress made this determination 3 weeks ago. Something not many ala Obama and his troika wanted to acknowledge.

Why isn’t this report on the UN’s CA. DPA site? Yes, we all know why…carry on.

"Removal of Zelaya was constitutional": UN

A study by the Department of Political Affairs of the United Nations Organization (UNO) on the causes of the crisis in Honduras, concluded that the removal of President Manuel Zelaya, “was constitutional under the laws of the country,” confirmed officials of that agency.

This version was officially known today by senior UN officials, which also coincides with the study prepared by the Library of Congress, which looked at by his side, the situation that generated and maintained in a political crisis in Honduras.

The document of the study by the Department of Political Affairs of the UN, with other information base (another truth) received at the last visit to Honduras, where it converged with representatives of the Organization of American States (OAS) and took advantage to meet other scenarios that were unclear.

The information on this collegial resolution of these experts, was provided to hondudiario.com, official sources and pressures inferred strategies that promote the former foreign minister Patricia Rhodes and the permanent representative of Venezuela in the Permanent Council to seek more sanctions against Honduras and require the return of former President Zelaya, which warned of “an ultimatum” to this October 15.


Google Translate

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cannot seem to find it on the msm...

La Gringa's Blogicito: UN Study: Ouster of Zelaya was constitutional

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2361978/posts

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annnnd thx Dan!!! we knew we had it in you.......some folks never ever learn


Ortega Assists Honduras
The Chávez model hits Nicaragua

If Honduras manages to preserve its democracy despite U.S. pressure to abandon it, the tiny Central American country may wind up thanking Nicaragua's Danny Ortega, of all people.

Last week, President Ortega inadvertently provided the best defense yet of the Honduran decision this summer to remove Manuel Zelaya from the presidency. Nicaragua has a one-term limit for presidents, and Mr. Ortega's term expires in 2011. However, the Nicaraguan doesn't want to leave, and so he asked the Sandinista-controlled Supreme Court to overturn the constitutional ban on his re-election.

Last week the court's constitutional panel obliged him. The Nicaraguan press reported that the vote was held before three opposition judges could reach the chamber in time for the session. Three alternative judges, all Sandinistas, took their place and the court gave Mr. Ortega the green light. Mr. Ortega has decreed that the ruling cannot be appealed.

This is classic strong-man stuff on Hugo Chávez's Venezuela model. Mr. Ortega's approval rating is in the low-30% range and he'd have a hard time winning a fair election against a united opposition. But he controls the nation's electoral council, and in the 2008 municipal races—the most important elected checks on the president—the council refused to provide a transparent accounting of the vote tally. It also blocked international and local observers, and the vote was marred by claims of widespread fraud. The international community watched all this but did nothing. And now Mr. Ortega is taking the next chavista step toward indefinite rule.

Hondurans deposed Mr. Zelaya because he was showing similar designs on changing their constitution to be able to run again and stay in power. Hondurans have to live in Mr. Ortega's neighborhood, and their action against Mr. Zelaya may well have saved them from Nicaragua's fate.

Nicaraguan President Ortega Asks for Term Limits to be Overthrown - WSJ.com

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Does ACORN have branch in Nicaragua?

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