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Re: EU pressures czech president to sign Lisbon treaty

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Thats too much of a compliment. I am just a layman with an opinion, with only vague and limited knowledge of the academic point of views. Also Thor has an equavily justified opinion, often enough we are looking at the same thing just from different angles.

I'd actually prefer a Kaffeehaus over a Heurigen for that purpose you suggested
Now you´re talking.
Kaffeehaus would be close to perfect.

I took Thor just as an example for a sober guy who´s interested in our part of the world.

About the different angles of view you´re absolutely right.

Should I get close to Vienna again I´ll pm you if you don´t mind.
I´d really like to have a chat with you.

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Interesting imperial view from a not existing future to a not existing presence. Whatever someone likes to take from Europe - he should take the right and not the wrong.

Today maybe the self fullfilling prophecies of Vaclav Klaus are killing the future way of Europe and the Klaus-Czechia will weaken Europe and will force Germany and Russia in a greater 'private' cooperation with a less multinational view on the world. In this case I would not be able to see what the future of Czechia could be. Fortunatelly Czechia is a very thankful nation and because Germany helped Czechia a lot in the last few hundred or thousand years they murdered and expatriated most Germans - and called this "justice". And because Germany helped Czechia a lot in the European Union it said in the sculpture Entropa: "Thank you Germany for your help. You are a funny Swastika-Highway-Nazi-nation!"

You should really try to get off whatever drug you´re on.

Reading your posts is like reading Goebbels.

Wonder who´s the real Nazi here.
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You should really try to get off whatever drug you´re on.

Reading your posts is like reading Goebbels.

Wonder who´s the real Nazi here.
You are the real Nazi. For me it makes no real difference if Germans were murdered because they were Germans or Jews were murdered because they were Jews. Maybe the Czechs are right and in the population of the so called "Sudetendeutschen" existed more Nazis than in other german populations - but the Czechs also have to ask themselve why it was in this way in Czecho(Germano)slovakia.

The simple truth is: Between Russia and Germany are existing nearly no problems anymore. If Czechia doesn't like this it's not the problem of Germany or Russia. Czechia could find other partners in Europe - but it don't like to do so if you are studying for example the sculpture "Entropa" what the Czech government installed. This sculpture says nothing else than "We like to show to every nation in Europe what idiots you are" while the great Czech nation was nearly the same time overchallenged in doing only little sensefull steps in the last world economy crisis. Seems everyone needs friends in the world - but not so Czechia. "Nazi-Germany" is no universal excuse for every stupidity someone can do.
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^^ Maybe thats a psychologic test? I see a Brezel, you seem to see a Swastika. What does this tell us?
Maybe I should get something to eat...
As an Austrian you are knowing very well what this "Highways were built from Hitler" comment means: "All Germans are still Nazis". Not to forget: Austrians are Germans and the real problems with Nazis in Austria are ...
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Re: EU pressures czech president to sign Lisbon treaty

How about you count the amound of times you type 'nazi' and compare that to everyone else. All you are is a spinnning wheel with a finger attached to it that says 'nazi'.

You spin and in whatever topic you land you call whoever responds to you a nazi. In good days it's in sentence 3 or 4, usually it's in sentence 1 (your last 2 posts).
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How about you count the amound of times you type 'nazi' and compare that to everyone else. All you are is a spinnning wheel with a finger attached to it that says 'nazi'.

You spin and in whatever topic you land you call whoever responds to you a nazi. In good days it's in sentence 3 or 4, usually it's in sentence 1 (your last 2 posts).
The only bad news: I'm right.
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As an Austrian you are knowing very well what this "Highways were built from Hitler" comment means: "All Germans are still Nazis". Not to forget: Austrians are Germans and the real problems with Nazis in Austria are ...
YouTube - HELMUT QUALTINGER LIESST ADOLF HITLER

See, even he himself already complained about the Ungermanness of Austrians. Anyway, I still see a Brezel there and think that the Swastika is a bit far fetched.

PS:
Germany is indeed today known for its Autobahnen but more often than not independently from the Nazi origin of parts of the network. It simply because Germany <-> cars <-> Autobahnen with no speed limits are very frequent prejudices (justified or not)
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YouTube - HELMUT QUALTINGER LIESST ADOLF HITLER

See, even he himself already complained about the Ungermanness of Austrians. Anyway, I still see a Brezel there and think that the Swastika is a bit far fetched.
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^^ From you? I do not expect anything, except maybe being called Nazi because of my nationality.

PS: I am off to the Kaffeehaus now.
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A very interesting article on the planned formation of the new diplomatic service of the EU, ie the service which is planned to run "EU embassies" around the world. (of course, if the Lisbon treaty gets into power as planned by the end of this year)

Power struggle defines debate over Europe's new foreign service | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 21.10.2009
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^^ From you? I do not expect anything, except maybe being called Nazi because of my nationality.

PS: I am off to the Kaffeehaus now.
In the moment I'm thinking in Austria are existing maybe as many Nazis as the NSDAP had members in 1933 in Germany. So you should not be surprised if someone calls you a Nazi because you are an Austrian. It's no news that Hitler also was an Austrian. But what was the reason I called you a Nazi? I don't remember this now. Maybe you take care only because you are thinking yourself you could be called a Nazi? But why do you think so? Because you are indeed a Nazi maybe? Do you like to say "I'm an Austian - and it's not faIr to be called Nazi on this reason, because everyone in the world knows (Except nearly all Germans) that Austria was the 'first victim of Hitler'". And how can a victim of the Nazis be a Nazi? But: Interview with an worlwide well respected Austrian Nazi: YouTube - Jörg Haider Interview .

By the way. In my eyes Haider liked to misuse the christian belief for his own confusing "ideas". The holy Saint Francis met Muslims in the times of the crusades and it is said he was heavily shocked what also Christians did do in his times in the name of the love of god - neverthelless he was not able not to love all human beings and he concentrated all his energy to rebuild the christian belief and power in the right way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDxpmV27p8
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... (of course, if the Lisbon treaty gets into power as planned by the end of this year) ...
One shouldn't sell the bear's fur before it has been killed.
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One shouldn't sell the bear's fur before it has been killed.
Well, in the rather unlikely case that Lisbon still fails, nothing is lost by having this discussion already now. (You can simply scrap it) A lot can be lost however, if it comes into power but nothing is prepared.
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In the moment I'm thinking in Austria are existing maybe as many Nazis as the NSDAP had members in 1933 in Germany. So you should not be surprised if someone calls you a Nazi because you are an Austrian. It's no news that Hitler also was an Austrian. But what was the reason I called you a Nazi? I don't remember this now. Maybe you take care only because you are thinking yourself you could be called a Nazi? But why do you think so? Because you are indeed a Nazi maybe? Do you like to say "I'm an Austian - and it's not faIr to be called Nazi on this reason, because everyone in the world knows (Except nearly all Germans) that Austria was the 'first victim of Hitler'". And how can a victim of the Nazis be a Nazi? But: Interview with an worlwide well respected Austrian Nazi: YouTube - Jörg Haider Interview .

By the way. In my eyes Haider liked to misuse the christian belief for his own confusing "ideas". The holy Saint Francis met Muslims in the times of the crusades and it is said he was heavily shocked what also Christians did do in his times in the name of the love of god - neverthelless he was not able not to love all human beings and he concentrated all his energy to rebuild the christian belief and power in the right way: YouTube - St. Francis - Brother Sun, Sister Moon - Song
Its getting ridiculous. The first victim thesis that the allied powers gave the Austrians as a little present, has been rebuked not only by civil society, historians but also by the leading Austrian politicians.

What I am saying is that categorizing someone as something purely based on his ethnicity is wrong. Its actually what racists etc do.

Your dislike (to put it nicely) of Austrians is well known in this forum. I have no clue where it comes from but honestly I don't care.
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... I have no clue where it comes from but honestly I don't care.
I don't know wether this sounds really better than "Austria cor et clipeus sacri romani imperii"

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