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Re: Wilders does boost fear of Islam: poll
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... But: There is a very big difference to believe in a god or to believe in god. Someone who would believe in spiderman (or spaghetti monsters) would be an idiot - and in this case maybe Dawkins would be right. But he knew about that he never will be able to know in this life wether god exists or doesn't exist - that's a question of belief - so he speaks about the probability of the existance of god. But if someone is not able to know wether god exists or doesn't exist he also is not able to know something about the probability of the existance of god. Even an idiot knows this - but not so one of the most famous scientist of the world. This man is a shame for all scientists. He believes that god is not existing - that's all. It's his right to do so - but this makes not other people to idiots.(By the way: He also speaks in this book about that Einstein did not believe in a personal god. In the german language Einstein often called god "der Alte" (=the old one) and this is a very familiar personal expression full of respect - nearly a kind of declaration of love) YouTube - Sacrifice (a video by me for Sinead)
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Re: Wilders does boost fear of Islam: poll
2 political assasinations? One was Theo van Gogh - I'm still shocked about his death, specially the kind he was murdered - who was the other one?
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Re: Wilders does boost fear of Islam: poll
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Guess I found it: "Pim Fortuyn" - isn't it? Unfortunatelly I'm also not sad about his death. Who can be sad about the death of an enemy? That's maybe the reason I forgot him. But maybe he was not even an enemy and I'm also only a victim of the mass media. If I try to find a sense in the story of Pim Fortuyn and his murderer it seems to me both are not looking like real human beings. It's like a dream and no reality. Like "demons" swimming in fear. Pim Fortuyn lived in fear and his murderer lived for fear but both seemed not to live in the 'fear'(=respect) of god and respect of life. If Wilders will die then another "demon" will replace him as long as this kinds of fear (the other side of terror) are existing. One reason for fear is the Koran and in my eyes the new-european taboo not to speak about the Koran and the unbelieveable cruelity of the so called prophet Mohammed is completly wrong. If someone would for example try to make a film about Mohammed and he likes to show his face - what is necessary if someone likes to show him as a human being - this woud be a reason for this person in the rest of his life to live in fear to be murdered from a Muslim. Such a fear would be completly real and it's not a phantasy. Although the Islam is nearly completly unimportant in whole Europe the fear of the Islam seems to install in all brains an automatical working censorchip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUb1...eature=related
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Re: Wilders does boost fear of Islam: poll
Correct. While Theo van Gogh murder was about religion and was terrible. The assasination of Pim Fortuyn is possibly worse. He was the leader of a large political party (which dissolved after his death). The assasination actually had major political impact on the Netherlands. It's speculation, but I believe this also fueled Geert Wilders' popularity.
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He was actually the person who said we should stop immigration completely (which matters if you consider the size of his political party at the time). Quote:
Also, I'm not sure how you define "Demon". Actually, I'm unsure why you call them that at all. |
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Re: Wilders does boost fear of Islam: poll
And, that 'religion' is directly responsible for a lot of murder and violence. Let us know when the radical Presbyterians and Buddhists start assassinating film makers and flooding the country with illegal aliens who form street gangs and other wonders of 'diversity'.
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It's the same thing almost with Shinto and Folk or Magical Taoism but for a different reason. There when you tell people the literal beliefs are silly they just say "of course, they're just stories, told to illustrate a point..."
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