Thread: engaging syria

The Golan has never been on the table, the Syrians know that, whats more the Israelis know the Syrians know that. They are just playing games when any of them bring it up.

Syria will alwaya go along with Iran because Iran finds the Syrian proxy strong arm in Lebanon, Hezbollah. They are hangers on.

We all know what the Syrians would do with the Golan Heights.

I wonder what Syria gets for being the middle man between Iran and the assorted terror groups.

Not engaging Syria would be a majorly retarded mistake on the part of this administration. Hopefully the good sense in the state department will preclude that.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Not engaging Syria would be a majorly retarded mistake on the part of this administration. Hopefully the good sense in the state department will preclude that.

Nope... I'm not going to say it. Not me... no way...

Originally Posted by tsquare

Nope... I'm not going to say it. Not me... no way...

Good thing you're not in charge of State.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Not engaging Syria would be a majorly retarded mistake on the part of this administration. Hopefully the good sense in the state department will preclude that.

And just what do you think you will have to give away to get them to do what you want?

Originally Posted by Imperator

The Golan has never been on the table, the Syrians know that, whats more the Israelis know the Syrians know that. They are just playing games when any of them bring it up.

Syria will alwaya go along with Iran because Iran finds the Syrian proxy strong arm in Lebanon, Hezbollah. They are hangers on.

Attracting Syria is important; since syria is the key of ME politics in iraq lebanon palestine etc

Israel have to sacrifice the Golan for breaking the syria-iran alliance. in this case, iran would lose its long arms -hamas and hezbollah-and be more isolated than ever; . this would contribute to israel security too. im not sure if syria or israel would accept this deal

syria as i understand is now taking care of calming down the saudi-iran tensions file. they have made an agreement bout "sharing" lebanon politically with saudi.. esp. after hariri's assasination.. his son just visited syria. so lebanon isnt a problem anymore for syria, and so is hezbollah

i cant see why syrians wont ditch iran.. the u.s. along w saudi egypt jordan can provide syria with what the iranians give them.. economically politically etc

today assad in his meeting with nejad said

"We hope that others don't give us lessons about our region and our history," al-Assad told reporters when asked about Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state's comments this week that Washington is troubled by Syria's relationship with Iran.

"We are the ones who decide how matters will go and we know our interests. We thank them for their advice.

"I find it strange that they (Americans) talk about Middle East stability and peace and the other beautiful principles and call for two countries to move away from each other," al-Assad said.


I wonder what interests with Iran is he talking about?

Originally Posted by Commodore

And just what do you think you will have to give away to get them to do what you want?

i think they want a u.s. mediated negotiations with israel..maybe golan back? or "share" iraq with them.. whatever they want as long as they ditch iran.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Not engaging Syria would be a majorly retarded mistake on the part of this administration. Hopefully the good sense in the state department will preclude that.

Agree.

The syrians would be stupid not to stick with Iran anymore, given the recent history of violence and aggression from Israel and the US. Hopefully, this history will soon come to an end when Teheran had it's first successful nuclear test.

And... so the meddling continues. What a big fucking surprise.:rolleyes:

It would not have been easy to understand the statement issued by the three-way summit between the Syrian President, the Turkish Prime Minister and the Emir of Qatar held in Turkey had it not been accompanied by political commentaries saying that the statement was advice for Iran whilst others called it a warning to Iran that it must reach an international agreement on its nuclear file with the West and if it does not, the situation will become more dangerous. The explanations that accompanied the statement gave it exceptional importance as it came directly from the three countries most sympathetic to Iran, and they are practically the last countries in the world that Tehran has. If it is true that the statement is a warning or open advice then Iran is now practically alone with no sympathizers except North Korea and Venezuela, which are both very far away and have no value in international and regional calculations.

At the same time, the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, unusually, took the initiative to be courteous to Syria and appease it, as he accused Iran of being the one trying to stir up war between Syria and Israel and stressed that there is no upcoming battle, and that the Iranians want a war in order to divert attention away from the issue of sanctions against Iran. The IDF Chief of General Staff added to that by stating that the maneuvers currently taking place in north Israel are normal and part of scheduled training and are not aimed at Syria or Hezbollah.

The Israelis preceded Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, as Israeli President Shimon Peres flew to Moscow and met him before the Russian President made a rare visit to Syria. Peres told him that Israel might negotiate for Golan. Of course he emphasized that the threat remains if Syria allows the armament of Hezbollah, which could lead to the outbreak of war in the region.

The complicated issues are the Iranian nuclear file, Hezbollah’s weapons, Israel’s neglect of negotiations over the Golan Heights, and the complex relationship between Israel, Syria and Iran. Does Syria’s desire for a strategic alliance with Iran grant it protection or does it implicate it in a deeper and more dangerous dilemma? Does Iran want to exploit Syria’s isolation and hide behind the Palestinian-Syrian-Lebanese issue in order to build its nuclear weapon, which might become a bigger threat to Arab states than it is to Israel which has the power of nuclear deterrence? Does Israel want to exploit the Iranian nuclear file and the international anti-Iranian atmosphere in order to punish Syria and Hezbollah?

There is no doubt that this will be a decisive year.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Not engaging Syria would be a majorly retarded mistake on the part of this administration. Hopefully the good sense in the state department will preclude that.

The US made the retarded move to repost an ambassador to Syria and Assad proceeded to give Obama the middle finger in assembling a friendly meeting with Iranian and Hezballah leaders to express their unity.

Doesn't get more retarded.