Thread: Hamas admits loosing control in Gaza

Originally Posted by Schnees

Israel withdrew from Gaza out of political expediency, however, it remains Israeli territory under the binding Palestine Mandate.

So here you got the complete text of the Palestine Mandate from the Jewish virtual library, unsuspicious to be an anti-israeli source. Please point to the part where it declares Gaza israeli territory ( if it was "binding") :


The Palestine Mandate

Originally Posted by Voland

So here you got the complete text of the Palestine Mandate from the Jewish virtual library, unsuspicious to be an anti-israeli source. Please point to the part where it declares Gaza israeli territory ( if it was "binding") :


The Palestine Mandate

Palestine Mandate, Article 6...

The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.

Now, you know.

Originally Posted by Voland

Your own article says the following :

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Still, despite their economic hardships, most Gazans insist that they prefer life here without the Israelis.

Pallies yearn for Israel in Gaza. Deal with it.

Originally Posted by Schnees

Pallies yearn for Israel in Gaza. Deal with it.

Iow, "Despite all evidence, including that provided by me, I will continue to make completely unfounded assertions. Deal with it."

Originally Posted by Schnees

Palestine Mandate, Article 6...


Now, you know.

No, I don´t.

The article does not mention Gaza or ANY territory and neither was Gaza waste land. It does also provide the legal frame for BRITISH rule from 1922-47/48 and not jewish /israeli.
And while the Mandate indeed supports the establishment of a national home for Jews it does nowhere say that this must be at the expense of the Arabs :

Preamble :


Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non Jewish communities in Palestine




ARTICLE 2. The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.

ARTICLE 9. The Mandatory shall be responsible for seeing that the judicial system established in Palestine shall assure to foreigners, as well as to natives, a complete guarantee of their rights.

ARTICLE 22. English, Arabic and Hebrew shall be the official languages of Palestine. Any statement or inscription in Arabic on stamps or money in Palestine shall be repeated in Hebrew and any statement or inscription in Hebrew shall be repeated in Arabic.

Originally Posted by Schnees

Pallies yearn for Israel in Gaza. Deal with it.

No, first you deal with facts, especially those from your own source.

Originally Posted by Voland

No, first you deal with facts, especially those from your own source.

No, first you deal with Pallies yearning for Israel, the headline of the article.

Originally Posted by Voland

No, I don´t.

The article does not mention Gaza or ANY territory...

The Palestine Mandate encompasses all of Palestine and does not disitnguish Gaza. Indeed, Eastern Palestine, now, Jordan, was included in the original Palestine Mandate, prior to being severed by the British.

Now, you know.

Originally Posted by Donkey_Left

Gaza was never part of historical, or biblical Israel. Check your facts.

Incorrect. Gaza is ancestral Jewish land. Arabs and Muslims originated from Arabia.

Originally Posted by Schnees

Incorrect. Gaza is ancestral Jewish land. Arabs and Muslims originated from Arabia.

Originally Posted by Schnees

The Palestine Mandate encompasses all of Palestine and does not disitnguish Gaza. Indeed, Eastern Palestine, now, Jordan, was included in the original Palestine Mandate, prior to being severed by the British.

Now, you know.

Since it does not single out any territory, and since it does proclaim equality of the ethnic groups and not supremacy of one over the other the reference to the Palestine Mandate would be not making your case even if it was more than a historical document.
Try again.

Originally Posted by Schnees

No, first you deal with Pallies yearning for Israel, the headline of the article.

And I am refering to the CONTENT, not the headline.

Originally Posted by Voland

Since it does not single out any territory, and since it does proclaim equality of the ethnic groups and not supremacy of one over the other the reference to the Palestine Mandate would be not making your case even if it was more than a historical document.
Try again.

The Palestine Mandate, in effect, proclaims supremacy of the Jews in establishing the legal, political and economic foundations of the Jewish homeland in Palestine, while intently not doing so for non-Jews. Lord Balfour, whose Balfour Declaration is the basis for the Palestine Mandate, British Prime Minister Lloyd George, Winston Churchill and Woodrow Wilson are on record as envisioning an eventual Jewish state in Palestine.

Provisions for Arab states under the San Remo Resolution were made with separate Syria and Iraq Mandates, from which Lebanon and Jordan eventuated. Indeed, the majority of the Ottoman Empire comprises the Arab Middle East, 25 countries.

You have no problem with merely one small Jewish country, do you?