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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    According to CNN, the Corrie has been boarded without violence and is being towed to an Israeli port.

    Israeli commandos seize aid boat headed for Gaza - CNN.com

    As for the Turkish navy getting involved - this is how wars start.....
    It's certainly an escalation that could lead to a real shooting war (if the report is correct)...the Turkish PM is under enormous pressure to face down Israel on this matter and I guess he's been advised that this will do the trick...suspect though that by the time this possible flotilla disembarks for Gaza, things will have been smoothed over in some way and everyone will know exactly how it will play out well in advance...all the M.E. needs is a power like Turkey, with it's considerable military capabilities, on the side of Israel's enemies.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Its not fair how Israel is left to stand alone in just about every engagement. The Israelis are a wonderful people they are just surrounded by an extremist group of muslim fanatics. Israel proves that constant exposure does breed a degree of contamination, the extremists continuous assaults on Israeli sovereignty have forced Israel into a corner of paranoia and defense for their own safety. Also noted that the Turks upped the engagement and just in every other case Israel was acting only in concern for there own people against a regime that has sworn upon the destruction of Israel.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor View Post
    I like the way you operate. You can be my wingman any time.
    Yes, murdering unarmed civilians bringing food to other civilians is great!

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Originally Posted by MattInFla
    According to CNN, the Corrie has been boarded without violence and is being towed to an Israeli port.

    Israeli commandos seize aid boat headed for Gaza - CNN.com
    When is the US Navy goign to be sent in to stop the Israeli pirates fom their immoral and illegal actions in international waters? Their theft of a foreign flagged vessal should be another sign that the UN needs to step in and impose sanctions against the terrorist nation of Israel until they stop their aggression.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    I doubt you'll ever see the US Navy do that.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    I'm wondering why the Israeli government doesn't understand that the blockade only strengthens Hamas. Well, I'm thinking they're counting on it. Hamas is Israel's raison d'être, and vice versa.


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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    The UN secretary general proposes an inquiry headed by a former PM of New Zealand who happens to be an expert in maritime law at the same time , with Turkey, Israel, and the US involved in the investigation. But Israel, that up to today refuses to agree to any probe of the incident, has also not yet agreed to the investigation and to the mandate. Israel apparently wants to make sure that the comission is not allowed to question its soldiers.... :

    UN proposes former New Zealand PM head Gaza flotilla probe - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    Yes, murdering unarmed civilians bringing food to other civilians is great!
    1. They weren't unarmed.

    2. They weren't murdered. The soldiers switched from documented a viewable non-lethal force to lethal force once they felt their lives were in danger.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Voland View Post
    The UN secretary general proposes an inquiry headed by a former PM of New Zealand who happens to be an expert in maritime law at the same time , with Turkey, Israel, and the US involved in the investigation. But Israel, that up to today refuses to agree to any probe of the incident, has also not yet agreed to the investigation and to the mandate. Israel apparently wants to make sure that the comission is not allowed to question its soldiers.... :

    UN proposes former New Zealand PM head Gaza flotilla probe - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
    Not surprising that Israel is not leaning towards cooperation seeing as they are already condemned.
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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Not surprising that Israel is not leaning towards cooperation seeing as they are already condemned.
    Not surprising that Israel again is going to lie and scheme it's way out of breaking international laws (furthermore if it has nothing to hide then why not allow the release of the peace activists phones and recording devices and allow Israeli commando's to be questioned in order to clear up its name?).... I agree with Rahmota... when are Israel's immoral acts going to be brought to justice??
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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    1. They weren't unarmed.

    2. They weren't murdered. The soldiers switched from documented a viewable non-lethal force to lethal force once they felt their lives were in danger.

    Have a nice day.
    Really? Before they boarded the ship, the commandos opened fire according to some accounts.

    You enjoy your day, as well.


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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    I doubt you'll ever see the US Navy do that.
    yeah I know it is sad to see that the government wont stand behind its commitment to protect international waters from murdering pirates like the Israelis.

    Still it would be wonderful to see what Israel would do if a carrier group escorted a flotilla of aid vessals into Gaza. Let them try their murdering boarding action then.

    Hamas is the legally elected government of the Gaza concentration camp and the Israelis know it they just dont like it. So they wanna play the battered victim pity card and say oh look at how they are all picking on me while attacking, harrassing and generally being an aggressive prick to everyone around them.

    Not surprising that Israel is not leaning towards cooperation
    Yeah the terrorist nations of the world rarely like to have their evil actions held up to the light.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    1. They weren't unarmed.

    2. They weren't murdered. The soldiers switched from documented a viewable non-lethal force to lethal force once they felt their lives were in danger.

    Have a nice day.
    1. Certainly, some people on the boat were armed with weapons...but how do you/we know that the 9 dead and 50 or so others shot and wounded were those who were armed and attacking the IDF?...seen any pictures from the Israeli's of the shootings?...we wont till there is an open enquiry...those who attacked the IDF may have simply merged back into the crowd, removed their masks and be now safe at home, planning their next mercy mission.

    2. Certainly, there is no evidence proving, even suggesting murder, but how do you/we know that the soldiers didn't just loose it and shoot anyone without an IDF uniform on within range? How do you/we know that the Israeli's didn't just line up capture attackers and shoot them in the head after they had been subdued?...seen any pictures of the shootings?...we won't till there is an open enquiry.

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by drake20 View Post
    Its not fair how Israel is left to stand alone in just about every engagement. The Israelis are a wonderful people they are just surrounded by an extremist group of muslim fanatics. Israel proves that constant exposure does breed a degree of contamination, the extremists continuous assaults on Israeli sovereignty have forced Israel into a corner of paranoia and defense for their own safety. Also noted that the Turks upped the engagement and just in every other case Israel was acting only in concern for there own people against a regime that has sworn upon the destruction of Israel.
    I think many country's would like to support Israel more openly, but it's difficult to ally yourself to a country who is perceived to be an aggressive oppressor by a significant number of strong lobbying groups in most western democracy's...I'm sure though that Israel gets a great deal of support behind the scenes from many country's which is intentionaly low key

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    Re: Israeli navy opens fire on international aid convoy for Gaza : At least ten dead

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Not surprising that Israel is not leaning towards cooperation seeing as they are already condemned.
    Israel does have a good point that when US, and other coallition forces kill civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan they get to be sole investigator without too much opposition from the international community.

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