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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add "within the limits of the law" because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Isaac H Tiffany (1819)
A no flight zone wouldn't have made much of a difference, tanks and artillery and trained forces still beat disorganized groups of well intentioned lightly armed untrained , undisciplined volunteers.
You can't go from aiding a dictator to pushing to oust him when his people decide to remove him without people noticing how Machiavellian American policy truly is.
It's not about freeing people and it probably never will be.
Granted, I'm not saying that other countries are any different. I just wish we'd be more honest with ourselves about this stuff.
It's just very disingenuous for so many conservatives to be flag waving about intervening in Libya when their past president had no interest in doing something like that and did quite the opposite in exchange for disarmament.
But, of course - this is what they would have wanted:
1) start with a no-fly zone. The extremely limited Libyan Air Force stays grounded. Artillery, rocket, and tank attacks continue against untrained individuals with small arms and RPGs. Said individuals continue to lose ground
2) demand airstrikes against Libyan army positions. Now US forces are more deeply involved, and start taking casualties as the Libyans start shooting back.
3) eventually - US invades Libya, at the cost of several trillion dollars (but we won't talk about that), and we sit in the middle of yet another civil war in the MidEast for a decade, while our men and women in uniform are killed.
4) blame Obama for getting us into that stupid shit.
That sound about right?
I can't see blaming Obama here.
If you must blame someone outside Libya, it seems to me that the Arab League and the EU would be more viable targets for blame. It's their backyard.
Well, congratulations, President Barack Obama, Conspiracy theorists who generally can survive in anaerobic environments have just had an algae bloom dropped on their fucking heads, thus removing the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver: skepticism about your opponents. - Jon Stewart
Any meddling will not gain us anything, might cost us a protracted nation building like Iraq, for what? Which ever side wins will not hurt, nor hinder us. It we interfere, we are the aggressor.