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Due to we left them hanging in the 80's and we have a current president who was trying to get out of there the day he stepped in office... this doesnt surprise me afghans have no faith in our ability to stand by them so he has to latch on to something. Obie one KaNOBE needs to shut his trap and stop undermining the confidence of our allies.
Karzai isn't our ally - he's a paid stooge. There is no country named "Afghanistan", there hasn't been a unified territory there since the Ummayad caliphs, & even then it wasn't a "country" in our sense of the word. This isn't Japan or Germany post WWII - where there used to be a country & good social cohesion before - Afghan is lines on a map (& Iraq, & Pakistan, & Bangladesh - nee East Pakistan & before that, simply part of India).
We left Afghan hanging once the Soviets were gone because that's all (DCIA Casey & Prexy Reagan) ever looked @, nor considered what would happen after that. What happened during was that Pakistan's military & ISI skimmed the $ & materials we provided for the Afghan rebels (incredibly, we didn't control where the $ & material went), used it to reward & reinforce their favorites in Afghan, & prepared to use Afghan as defense in depth for their next losing war against India. Oh yah, & skimmed off $ & black marketed material to build their own nukes & nuclear industry, up to & including missle design. & sold plans, expertise, raw material, U centrifuges everywhere they could.
A few more "allies" like that & we would have lost the Cold War & WWII ...
I definitely agree that we should worry about our own problems before we attempt to change the entire world. Before giving money to those starving in Africa, how about we make sure children starving here have food? In stead of attempting to save the economy of other countries, why not save our own? However, I believe that we should also keep a good amount of allies and agreements with other countries. Yet, completely being engaged in the rebuilding of another country's government should not be the responsibility of the United States, and should not be spending funds on other countries when we cannot pay off our very own debt.
Interventionist policies have done nothing but cause us problems internationally.
The reasons for this are twofold:
1) We expect every other nation in the world to think and act as we do and we base our assumptions of their actions on what we would do in their place.
2) We rarely think two moves in the future, ie. we don't anticipate the long term ramifications of our actions abroad.
If we ever bacame serious about non-interventionism, then our standing in the world would improve ans would our financial bottom line. Sadly this will never happen because far too many Americans believe it's their right to meddle in the affairs of others and tell them what's right for them.
The whole Afghan and Iraq thing was done for domestic consumption, it was necessary for Bush to divert attention from the economy as a part of his 2004 re-election campaign.
In that respect it was a success. But no one who is familiar with the history of the region believed that the US military was capable of anything other than blowing a lot of stuff up before they eventually withdrew.
The only question was the timing and the events that would be used to justify it.
I remember talking to an Iraqi during OIF II back in '04. We were talking about the fact that Iraqis in general didn't come out and hail the US as liberators when the Hussein government fell like the French did during WWII.
He said, "Americans expect everyone to act like Americans. They can't understand when they don't. They don't try to understand. They just get angry."
That sort of stuck with me.
I think that the only reason that we are still in Afghanistan is because Obama doesn't want to deal with the uproar that the Republicans would raise if he just brought the troops home. Now that we have "avenged 9/11" (in Pakistan???), we should just go home and leave those tribal people to sort things out on their own. We can't make them be what they don't want to be (Western) so we should stop wasting our time trying to remake them in or own image.
Democracy is hard, very hard. The US experiment in democracy almost failed, twice.
Because we want them to succeed, we provide the opportunity, stand back, and when they fail, try to help them again.
Russia is also failing at democracy. China doesn't have an opportunity to fail.
We do not expect every nation to think and act as we do. We do believe, strongly, that each of us, be it in Kansas or Kabul, wants the ability to be free, make our own choices and make better lives for our children. We intervene because in far too many cases, there are oppressors who deny people that chance to be free.
In 1939, the best thing the US could have done, for the US, was to negotiate a deal with Hitler that split the spoils of the world between the US and Germany. We'd have our run of much of the world, and would be safe behind our ocean. We could not and we did not. (Note-Hitler saw German and England as natural allies)