Yes, that makes sense.
Exactly how I feel. Removing them and keeping other kids safe is paramount.
I understand what you mean but since I think man does not have the right to destroy human life, I don't go for the death penalty.

I think 10-15 Years in prison if have sex with a minor but you didnt assult or force the child to commit a sex act.But if you assult and rape a minor under 16 years of age you should get 25 years without parole.

No, Doniston is right. There is a difference between pedophelia and child molestation and it is not merely the difference between someone who acts on an impulse and one who does not.

I'm going to wing it here because I can't readily find an internet source on which to rely.

First, child molestation implies an action against a child and not just some predilection.

Second there is a difference between the kinds of people who have sex with or WANT to have sex with children.

In the case of a child predator, a child is the prey because they are an easy target to dominate and control - violence, dominance, manipulation are the stimulus. They don't really care if it's "wrong" and no punishment is likely to deter them.

In the second case, a person has a sexual attraction to immaturity like some people are stimulated by any number of characteristics, smells, settings,... fetishes. They may well be inhibited by what is deemed "wrong" and/or "illegal". If they were men, these people may have been fine in times past when it was perfectly acceptable for fully grown men to take an arguable prepubescent wife. Even today, there is a slim line between pedophelia and "normal". Go ahead and do a Google search of porn sites to take your own survey of how many advertise "barely legal" or "teenage". The definition hinges on our legal definition of "child" and NOT on the predilection itself.

If the motive is violence, the age matter not one iota.

Again, I apologize if my definitions are off target or even backward but the point is that there is a difference.

Either one might molest a child because "child molestation" is the action.

Steve's response ties in here. If a school teacher has a relationship with their highschool student does that warrant the same consideration of a predator?

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Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

So which catergory do you fit into then?

Why under 16? Why not under 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 24, 25, or 26, etc...

If the act is one of force, the stimulus is not the age of the person assaulted but the ability to dominate and control.

It is only my personal perspective but I feel there is no rational way to measure the suffering of another therefore the concept of appropriate "punishment" in a justice system (rather than correction, prevention, rehabilitation, etc...), is in the eyes and the heart of the victim(s).

Note: I'm applying this to violent crime specifically.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

Greetings and Felicitations,

I would appreciate your keeping such inane comments from this thread.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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If the pedophile performed things such as touching the child’s privates, I’d go with arrest.
Everyone knows that this act is wrong and if a person has an urge to perform such acts and has trouble in controlling such urge, then that individual is responsible to seek help. Once the urge is acted on, the courts should not be responsible to provide / force treatment.

If the pedophile performed such acts as rape, then I say death. IMO why should this type of individual be allowed to live when their actions have induced emotional trauma, physical damage and so on onto an innocent child. This type of individual is un-helpable IMO and falls into the repeat offender category.

If it would have ever happened to my children or grandchildren, I can promise that I'd be sitting in jail for murder......To me, my kids would be worth it !

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The problem with the death penalty for people who have sex with children is that they may as well murder the victim of their sexual assault. Since the penalty is the same they have nothing to lose. In fact they have much to gain because a dead victim is far less useful to a criminal investigation than a living one.

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I think pedaphiles rapists and killers should become kamikazis and suicide bombers. tell em its the only way god will forgive them, then send them after alquada!

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The same argument can be used for jailing them too. They don't want to go to jail either, and so have much to gain by killing them.
IMO, not everyone has the potential to kill; killing someone requires a totally different character compared to a rapist or even a thief.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

Greetings and Felicitations,

I would offer you this counter argument.

How would your kids think about it? Would they rather have their father at home helping them heal or sitting in prison where they could never see him again. If you could find the person then you could report the person ahd have them punished by the authorities. All you would be doing is indulging in revenge and taking yourself away from the people who need you.

Vigilante justice is not justice, its revenge.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

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Okay let me put it this way. Let's assume for the moment that people who sexually molest children do so because they can't control their sexual instincts. If the penalty for sexual molestation of a child were execution rather than imprisonment, might it be the case that a person who found him or herself unable to control their sexual instincts would decided that since the punishment for sexual molestation of a child was the same as for murder then they may as well enhance their chances of avoiding apprehension and conviction by killing the victim?

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Where did people get this disturbing idea that any form of individual retribution is "vigilante jusitce" and somehow wrong?

Was the state somehow granted sole power to address crime?

Yes it is revenge. So what? It is also justice, and a parents duty.

You hurt my child, you had better pray the police find you first. Its really that simple. You can call that whatever you want, but good luck finding a jury on the planet who would find a parent guilty for ANYTHING they chose to do to the child molester who hurt his kid.

I am sorry for your experiences and that your parents didnt have the decency to put a swift and violent end to the predator who caused you to have them. On the other hand, perhaps if people were less likely to rely upon an overworked, underpaid, uninvolved police department to resolve their issues for them, we would have the crime we have today.

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I would argue if people were less inclined to simply pass the buck for dealing with the criminal to the state, and took matters into their own hands - as they did for thousands of years until VERY recently in human history - the problem would be much smaller than it is.

I see two kinds of responses really to how to deal with child molesters; the responses of those who love children and those who dont. Few who love them would advocate kindness towards the perpetrator. It takes a pretty sick mind, IMNSHO, to give two shits about what a child molester might think.

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In Denmark we have special prison sections reserved for rapists and pedophiles.

A long prison sentence in isolation from the rest of the inmates followed up by a medical castration would be the most rationel IMHO.

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