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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

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It would have been difficult for them to seek swift and violent justice to the perpetrator since the perpetrator was my father. This is why I learned that revenge has its limitations and very often has negative results. Looking within myself to justify my need for revenge would have destroyed the person I choose to be.

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I think the only linitations are the ones you choose. I wouldn't call this person a family member, the meaning of "family" is contradicted here.
You can never be yourself when this person exists in your mind (phisically or mentally). You either accept that he was/is sick and needs help or accept nothing of his existence.
Starting this thread shows you are not satisfied.
I think he is a sick bastard, at the very least protect others whom he may hurt.
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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

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FYI, most child molesters have been sexually abused as kids themselves (as you were).
I am aware of this idea. However, I deny its validity as any kind of excuse. I have heard this stated in various and sundry means. I have seen it used for child molesters, racist and child abusers. Its not my (her, his, their) fault because they suffered the same thing as a child. If I accepted this rationale I would be condemned to the same fate and my children for eternity. It has to stop somewhere.

Nonsense.

Everyone has a choice.

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I think the only linitations are the ones you choose. I wouldn't call this person a family member, the meaning of "family" is contradicted here.
You can never be yourself when this person exists in your mind (phisically or mentally). You either accept that he was/is sick and needs help or accept nothing of his existence.
Starting this thread shows you are not satisfied.
I think he is a sick bastard, at the very least protect others whom he may hurt.
I actually started this thread to continue a conversation on a different thread. I affirm the idea that those who molest children are ill. This is because I think that anyone that can intentionally injure another is psychologically damaged.
Self-defense can be used as a reason but I believe that you should limit your self-defense to the most non-damaging method possible. Many people want to wage total war against an attacker without taking into effect other methods of response.
My personal method of treatment is commitment to a psychological facility. Placing people in prison doesn't effectively address any criminal activity because they are simply put there to spend some time and learn to be better criminals.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

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Greetings and Felicitations,



I actually started this thread to continue a conversation on a different thread. I affirm the idea that those who molest children are ill. This is because I think that anyone that can intentionally injure another is psychologically damaged.
Self-defense can be used as a reason but I believe that you should limit your self-defense to the most non-damaging method possible. Many people want to wage total war against an attacker without taking into effect other methods of response.
My personal method of treatment is commitment to a psychological facility. Placing people in prison doesn't effectively address any criminal activity because they are simply put there to spend some time and learn to be better criminals.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
Unfortunately, there are those who can’t be helped. For these people there are two choices; massive drugs or death. Giving them the drugs to control them means society supporting them because they are too far out of it, so IMO death is the better solution.
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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

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Greetings and Felicitations,



I actually started this thread to continue a conversation on a different thread. I affirm the idea that those who molest children are ill. This is because I think that anyone that can intentionally injure another is psychologically damaged.
Self-defense can be used as a reason but I believe that you should limit your self-defense to the most non-damaging method possible. Many people want to wage total war against an attacker without taking into effect other methods of response.
My personal method of treatment is commitment to a psychological facility. Placing people in prison doesn't effectively address any criminal activity because they are simply put there to spend some time and learn to be better criminals.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
David I really have trouble comprehending your reasoning. You say yourself that you have committed yourself to a phsycological facility, to me it means being prisoned (phisically and mentally) for the crime someone else has committed.
One last question: how much did he limit his self defense before hirting you?
You are too kind. All the best.
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You say yourself that you have committed yourself to a phsycological facility, to me it means being prisoned (phisically and mentally) for the crime someone else has committed.
I think, perhaps, you have misunderstood something. Where did I say I was committed to a psychological facility? I will admit that I have sought counseling but I have never been committed. Once again, I think you have misunderstood something I have written.

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You say yourself that you have committed yourself to a phsycological facility, to me it means being prisoned (phisically and mentally) for the crime someone else has committed.
He said his preferred method of dealing with the offender would be to commit him to a pyscological facility, not that he'd get himself admitted into one.
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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

cant believe i didnt comment on this.

for now, the current system doesnt work. alot of these criminals get out of jail, become repeat offenders.
the proof of this is "megans law" which basically says "warning! theres a pedophile moving in. hide your kids."

so, i think this skitsophrenic justice system (letting pedophiles go but warning people of their presence) is flawed and needs an overhaul.

Why would you warn people about someone that is considered judicially rehabilitated? Its just endangering the public and making the justice system look bad.

My argument aside. I think the answer is to increase jail times, and studying the nature of attraction to children. Whatever can be done to keep kids safe.
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Re: What is an acceptable punishment for Pedophiles?

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I think, perhaps, you have misunderstood something. Where did I say I was committed to a psychological facility? I will admit that I have sought counseling but I have never been committed. Once again, I think you have misunderstood something I have written.

Sincerely Yours,
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Ok my mistake sorry...

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He said his preferred method of dealing with the offender would be to commit him to a pyscological facility, not that he'd get himself admitted into one.
thanks Rahul you make it so clear, can you explain the next post also?
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thanks Rahul you make it so clear, can you explain the next post also?
What don't you understand about it?
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What don't you understand about it?

This is too funny....
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I support the death penalty, and would so in the case of a pedophile.

If not put to death, then sentence them to life, for however brief a time that may be, among the general population...
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