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Re: Change the Jury system!

So,

What would then take precedence, the equity court or the law court?

And what about the Magna Carta?
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Why dont they put more quilfied lawyers to defend you instead of some backwoods high school dropout public defender.
This single sentence is all the proof we need that you haven't a clue about what you're bitching about.

Also, if we're to have a "jury of our peers", what happens to someone who's not college educated?
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This single sentence is all the proof we need that you haven't a clue about what you're bitching about.

Also, if we're to have a "jury of our peers", what happens to someone who's not college educated?
Then they dont get on the jury.
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Then they dont get on the jury.
And what of someone, accused of a crime, who doesn't hasn't graduated college? Is he automatically guilty, or does he walk?
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Let the PHDs decide what happens to him. Not a bunch of welfare people who dont know any better.
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Let the PHDs decide what happens to him. Not a bunch of welfare people who dont know any better.
That's insane.

Basically, you're saying that not only someone who's not college educated cannot sit on a jury, but now you want them all to be Doctors. Doctors of what, exactly?

Regardless, I know some pretty fuckin' stupid college graduates. They've got book smarts for days, but they wouldn't be able to reason their way out of an empty parking lot. I wouldn't want these fools on a jury...
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Let the PHDs decide what happens to him. Not a bunch of welfare people who dont know any better.
Thing is though Steve, I've got a degree and I've also been on unemployment benefit ( not quite the same as welfare if I understand the American system ) both before and after I got my degree. My intelligence didn't suddenly go up when I got my degree and it didn't suddenly drop when I was signing on. There are many perfectly intelligent people who have never got a degree for whatever reason ( my father is a good example ) and equally I met people at university who had all the common sense of a particularly dense Mule.

In short, for me simple possession of college degree is no guarantee of the ability to be a good juror.
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Im tired of Stupid assinine aquitable judgements. O.J IS GUILTY!! MICHEAL JACKSON IS GUILTY!!! AND ROBERT BLAKE IS GUILTY!!! These 3 men should been in prison right now not walking in the streets enjoying freedom
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Yep. It's decided. Steveox should be Cop, Judge, Jury, and executioner.
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Im tired of Stupid assinine aquitable judgements. O.J IS GUILTY!! MICHEAL JACKSON IS GUILTY!!! AND ROBERT BLAKE IS GUILTY!!! These 3 men should been in prison right now not walking in the streets enjoying freedom
Our Legal System may not be perfect, However it is the best in the world
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Our Legal System may not be perfect, However it is the best in the world
I think the Soviet Union had the best legal system.Otherwise crimonals would been laughing and still walk the streets of moscow. Cause in the Soviet Union 99.5% if you break the law youll serve 10 years in prison in hard labor.
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Yeah - bring back the gulags! That'll fix what's wrong with our society!

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In short, for me simple possession of college degree is no guarantee of the ability to be a good juror.
But you don't live in Steveoxland so, clearly, you'll never understand...

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You people dont understand..If you break the law you dont get Mr Dershowitz to defend you.You get a Backwoods high school dropout public defender to handle your case.And youll end up in prison.But if you have millions of dollars in your swiss bank account youll hire Alan Dershowitz to defend your case then youll escape from prison life.This is what needs tro be changed. Cause when you have PHDs serving on Jurors even the wealthy enter Prison life.
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You people dont understand..If you break the law you dont get Mr Dershowitz to defend you.You get a Backwoods high school dropout public defender to handle your case.And youll end up in prison.But if you have millions of dollars in your swiss bank account youll hire Alan Dershowitz to defend your case then youll escape from prison life.This is what needs tro be changed. Cause when you have PHDs serving on Jurors even the wealthy enter Prison life.
Damn...

First, high school drop outs can't be lawyers. I realize that this small fact is probably one lost on you, so it bears mentioning.

Secondly, it's now clear that you have a problem with rich people not going to jail. What about people, who aren't rich, who are found not guilty?
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