Strange. reference the second sentance regarding the first. Apparently you only remember what you want, or perhaps you just didn't know, that the Koolaide reference has to do with the Jim Jones mass suicide. which should indicte that the Liberals aren't the party which seem to be trying hard to commit suicide.

1. Is it more wrong to put your dick up an animals a$$ or Vagina that the a$$ of a boy or girl? I don't see much differnce, an I don't do either.

2. Have you ever read a sick story? why is the writer wrong for writing the fiction, or even the truth? If you object, you shouldn't be reading the Bible.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Republicans booted him out of the party over his stories. I know I don't want him in our party.

But here's the sad sick kicker. The democrat party took him in spite of his sick stories. This speaks volumes about your party's core principles.


Kramer

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Theyr'e all wrong in my book.

No and so what?


In my opinion, anybody who writes such a story is a little warped to say the least. I see no reason whatsoever to write such fiction unless he belongs to NAMBLA. On the otherhand, if this sort of thing does indeed happen in other cultures AND Webb was writing this as part of a factual documentary on deviant cultural practices of other nations, then this is another story.

Understand?

One last comment. I am really surprised that people here actually are defending him and/or attacking me over my comments on him.

Kramer

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Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers

Maybe because you haven't read the book, you have no idea about the context of the story, you only care that the right wing media has given you the one line and the spin, so off you go.

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There's no spinning this.

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Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers

Webb didn't make it up out of his imagination. He was describing something that he saw happening. If an author sees something that repulses him or something that kramer might think is horrible, should he refrain from ever writing about it?

Rubbish, you're whole theory about it is spin. It's not based in fact. You think an author who wrote about what he saw is a horrible, evil man...

Maybe because there is no reason to condemn him. except perhaps in you Biased, biggotted, and overly puritanic mind.

Depends. If it's a documentary on bizare cultural practices of other countries, then it's ok. But I see absolutly no reason to write this in a ficiton piece.



Whether he saw it or not, who cares? That doesn't change why I can't understand why he would want to write about it in a fictional story.

I'm still amazed that the apologists keep on apologizing...

Kramer

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“It's time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybody's role is spelled out in advance and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. It's no surprise that our school system doesn't improve; it more resembles the communist economy than our own market economy."
Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers

I don't much care what two consenting adults do in their own privacy.

And I'm still amazed that the apologists keep on apologizing...

Finally, please explain how I am "Biased" and "biggotted?"

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“It's time to admit that public education operates like a planned economy, a bureaucratic system in which everybody's role is spelled out in advance and there are few incentives for innovation and productivity. It's no surprise that our school system doesn't improve; it more resembles the communist economy than our own market economy."
Albert Shanker, former president of the American Federation of Teachers

It isn't a writer's job to be politically correct. Some works come from deep imagination, others come from life experiences. Jim Webb was writing about a specific community of people and a highly unusual activity that was taking place. It is a moot point to criticize a writer for being sick, simply because the writer described an unusual practice. It's how the thing is described. Nudity or deviant acts aren't porn depending on how they're described or what the attitude of the story is.

To have a problem with Jim Webb about what he was describing isn't having a problem with Jim Webb, it is having a problem with yourself. If what he wrote disturbs you, that is your issue, not Webb's. Just like if you were to despise a writer who wrote a gay love story. It isn't the writer you really hate, it's the discomfort you have because of the issue that came up in you when you read it.

Grow up and take some responsibility, you're a big kramer now.