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View Poll Results: When will Gonzales resign?
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They don't. You are repeating a lie you heard on Limbaugh. If it weren't so absurd, I would be extremely angry at your accusation. But it's so stupid that it's almost funny.
Sorry, but they've been extremely open in their offer of aid and comfort to the enemy. Every time they open their mouths (the Liberals that is) and spew their lies and hatred about how we're creating more terrorists and such, they're helping the enemy. You need to face a simple truth here, Limbaugh doesn't lie, he backs up everything he says, all you have to do is check it out.

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So you call liberals the enemy and you accuse them of aiding the terrorists, but you have no hatred for them? That's pretty fucked up. I have hatred for the Saudi Royal family for aiding the Sunnis who kill our troops, for the Saudi Royal family who demanded Cheney come to their country so they can threaten to step in and officially arm the Sunnis if we leave Iraq.
Wow, you have been listening to the kooks too long.

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You have some wacky idea that the liberals are the enemy and in some way aiding the terrorists like the Saudis are and you don't have hatred for them? I call bullshit.
I didn't say I am not unhappy with the Saudis.

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You are again, believing Limbaugh's lies when you say liberals want us to lose in Iraq. Which liberal has ever said that? Sorry todd, more bullshit. It's empty rhetoric not based in fact, no truth to it at all.
Jack Murtha, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Barack "the clean" Obama, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, pretty much every Liberal has called for Americas defeat in Iraq. Again, Limbaugh doesn't lie, he has no reason to, and you can show no proof what so ever to back up this baseless claim.

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Uh yeah, they are, they go to SA when ordered and they leave our troops in Iraq to be killed by Sunni insurgents, who are backed by Sunny Saudi Arabia.
Who orders them to? Do you have proof? I didn't think so.

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What are you referring to? What constitutional rights do liberals want to give up? The constitutional rights issue is the one the liberals are fighting FOR not against. Illegal wiretaps, habeas corpus, etc...
Sorry, let me rephrase that, Liberals want to take away our Constitutional rights, first things first, it has been proven time and time again that there have been no illegal wiretaps, or anything of that nature. I know you believe in granting terrorists rights, but as far as I'm concerned they only have one right, and that right is to die.

As for the rights that Liberals want to take away, it's simple, they want Government to control every aspect of our lives, they believe in punishing achievement by taxing the rich with no reason, they want to take away our guns, they want Conservatives like me to be stifled by enacting the "fairness doctrine" which takes away first amendment rights. I could go on all day and point out the Liberals in the Democrat party similarities to Stalin.

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Honest? Where are those WMD and mushroom clouds?
It's been proven by eyewitness accounts that the WMD's have been moved to Syria.

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It didn't work this time did it?
We haven't had much Conservative leadership, but what we have had (i.e. in the area of national security and tax cuts) have been a tremendous success.

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Which rights are those?
Pretty much every right that has been granted to us by our founders. I mean Liberals actually lie and say that the Constitution says "separation of church and state" when it doesn't even suggest such a thing.

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I think you are confused. It's the GOP that spreads the lies, check the Swift boaters and the story about Obama going to a muslim school coming from Hillary's camp, all lies.
No, those were all true, everybody knows about the Clinton war machine, not only defeat your opponent, but try and destroy them.

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McCain didn't lie! He was lied about again by the GOP, they said he had an affair with a black woman and that's why he has a black child. The truth is his child is adopted. I'm not aware of any Hagel or Chaffee lies.
McCain is a typical Lib, the truth is not in him, if you want to hear Hagel or Chaffee lie, just listen the next time either of them open their mouths.
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Produce some facts to back up your mouth son
He doesn't have any facts. He only has Rush Limbaugh GOP propaganda.
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It was the conservative idea of going above the law to illegally wiretap on American citizens. This law, from people who believe in "smaller, less intrusive government", and you try to say that Liberals are the enemy? Conservatism in America has been thrown on it's head these last 5 years, and by whom? Conservatives say they don't like gays, but they're all a bunch of male-hooker-renting fags. They say they have a war on drugs, but when fatty Rush gets busted it's a "health issue", but a "crime issue" when it's a black guy. You say you're for smaller less intrusive government, but what do you call the waste of bureaucracy that it the Homeland Security Dep't?
You can't be serious, you Libs are truly no match for me, it's been proven time and time again that the wiretaps are perfectly legal. That isn't even arguable, only Liberals try and make it something it's not. Liberals are the enemy, look in your own country, you people there have been ruled by Liberals for years and it's made you all worse off. Oh yes, the old lie about Conservatives being racists, bigots, sexists, and homophobes. Sorry, it holds no water.

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Conservatives have absolutely no credibility.
Not being Liberal automatically gives Conservatives credibility.

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You don't even stand for the things you're supposed to stand for. Go away and take some conservatism 101 classes that'll remind you why nation-building is a folly, why doubling the deficit isn't conservative, why denying global warming and the theory of evolution make you appear unevolved yourselves.

That's all.
Are you really that much of a half-wit? It would appear so, I mean I am standing up for what I believe in, you actually believe the lie about global warming?? You are truly in sad shape. I have a creator, there is no proof to back up the lie of evolution, and the deficit will get better, just as soon as more tax cuts are made. You bore me, kid.
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Produce some facts to back up your mouth son
All you have to do is open your eyes and look at the Libs as they give aid and comfort to people who want to destroy us, Dad. Wait, you can't be my dad, he believes as I do, making him honest.
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Who are the enemies of freedom and rights? I know Republicans are at least a party of that group as Bush has passed the Patriot Act.
The Patriot Act actually protects our rights, you must be confused, or you believe the tripe the Liberals throw at you. Probably the latter.
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He doesn't have any facts. He only has Rush Limbaugh GOP propaganda.
Well, seeing as Conservatives are honest, and Liberals are proven liars, then I have been telling facts, it's ok, sam, I enjoy being right.
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All you have to do is open your eyes and look at the Libs as they give aid and comfort to people who want to destroy us, Dad. Wait, you can't be my dad, he believes as I do, making him honest.

Just what I thought, you're just a troll. no facts to back up anything say.
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Just what I thought, you're just a troll. no facts to back up anything say.
I rely on common sense, a trait i see that you do not have. What do you want? You haven't seen the Liberals such as Jack Murtha, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Pelosi, Biden, and pretty much every other Liberal call for the defeat of the US every time they speak? They say we can't win, you and I know we can and will if left alone. The fact is when we win will be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat party.

In closing I would like to say that I reject the premise of your comments, they're pointless, and as I've proven, factless. You are obviously clueless about what is happening in the world, maybe you should educate yourself about these things before calling me a troll. Just a thought.
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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Sorry, but they've been extremely open in their offer of aid and comfort to the enemy. Every time they open their mouths (the Liberals that is) and spew their lies and hatred about how we're creating more terrorists and such, they're helping the enemy. You need to face a simple truth here, Limbaugh doesn't lie, he backs up everything he says, all you have to do is check it out.
Todd, noticing that Al Qaeda is growing larger and becoming more influencial is not a lie and it's not helping the enemy. If you wanted to help the enemy you would deny their strength and size and let them keep growing and strengthening.
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Wow, you have been listening to the kooks too long.
You don't believe that Saudi Arabia recently demanded Cheney come there to be warned that if we leave Iraq they will arm the Sunnis? It was all over the news when it happened, not that long ago. There was a thread on this board about it. Sorry you missed that. Here's a google search. Read a link. cheney saudi arabia arm sunnis - Google Search
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I didn't say I am not unhappy with the Saudis.
How do you feel about them?
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Jack Murtha, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Barack "the clean" Obama, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, pretty much every Liberal has called for Americas defeat in Iraq. Again, Limbaugh doesn't lie, he has no reason to, and you can show no proof what so ever to back up this baseless claim.
Instead of believing every word Limbaugh says, you should use your brain and look up these things yourself to see if they are true. None of those people ever said they want America's defeat in Iraq. It's just not true. I'm worried about you Todd. You are dangerously gullible.
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Who orders them to? Do you have proof? I didn't think so.
Who orders who to do what? I have proof that Saudi Arabia called for Cheney to come to SA and I have proof that he went. I have proof that the Saudis threatened him that if we leave Iraq they will arm the Sunnis. Check the link above, there's lots of proof.
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Sorry, let me rephrase that, Liberals want to take away our Constitutional rights, first things first, it has been proven time and time again that there have been no illegal wiretaps, or anything of that nature. I know you believe in granting terrorists rights, but as far as I'm concerned they only have one right, and that right is to die.

As for the rights that Liberals want to take away, it's simple, they want Government to control every aspect of our lives, they believe in punishing achievement by taxing the rich with no reason, they want to take away our guns, they want Conservatives like me to be stifled by enacting the "fairness doctrine" which takes away first amendment rights. I could go on all day and point out the Liberals in the Democrat party similarities to Stalin.
Dude you are scaring me. When was it proven that there were no illegal wiretaps?
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In particular, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, said such behavior by the executive branch "can't be condoned," and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-New York, said the report swayed his decision on the Patriot Act proposal.

"Today's revelation that the government listened in on thousands of phone conversations without getting a warrant is shocking and has greatly influenced my vote," Schumer said. "Today's revelation makes it very clear that we have to be very careful -- very careful."

Specter, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, added Friday that his committee would immediately begin investigating the matter.CNN.com - Bush*says he signed NSA wiretap order - Dec 17, 2005
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It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.
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It's been proven by eyewitness accounts that the WMD's have been moved to Syria.
One guy said maybe that's what happened. There is no proof and no one really thinks that's what happened except you and Rush.
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We haven't had much Conservative leadership, but what we have had (i.e. in the area of national security and tax cuts) have been a tremendous success.
Successful in making the rich get richer and the poor grow in numbers.

National Security = wide open borders, no port security, national guard stop lossed in Iraq, less than half of the 9/11 commission's suggestions put in place. Not as successful as you think....
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Pretty much every right that has been granted to us by our founders. I mean Liberals actually lie and say that the Constitution says "separation of church and state" when it doesn't even suggest such a thing.
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"It is true that the literal phrase 'separation of church and state' does not appear in the Constitution, but that does not mean the concept isn't there. The First Amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...."

What does that mean? A little history is helpful: In an 1802 letter to the Danbury (Conn.) Baptist Association, Thomas Jefferson, then president, declared that the American people through the First Amendment had erected a "wall of separation between church and state." (Colonial religious liberty pioneer Roger Williams used a similar phrase 150 years earlier.)
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Jefferson's Danbury letter has been cited favorably by the Supreme Court many times. In its 1879 Reynolds v. U.S. decision the high court said Jefferson's observations "may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the [First] Amendment." In the court's 1947 Everson v. Board of Education decision, Justice Hugo Black wrote, "In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between church and state.'" It is only in recent times that separation has come under attack by judges in the federal court system who oppose separation of church and state." Separation of Church and State
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No, those were all true, everybody knows about the Clinton war machine, not only defeat your opponent, but try and destroy them.
If you insist those smears were true, you are not paying attention.
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McCain is a typical Lib, the truth is not in him, if you want to hear Hagel or Chaffee lie, just listen the next time either of them open their mouths.
Can you give me some specific examples? Just saying it doesn't make it so.
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I rely on common sense, a trait i see that you do not have. What do you want? You haven't seen the Liberals such as Jack Murtha, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Pelosi, Biden, and pretty much every other Liberal call for the defeat of the US every time they speak? They say we can't win, you and I know we can and will if left alone. The fact is when we win will be the final nail in the coffin of the Democrat party.

In closing I would like to say that I reject the premise of your comments, they're pointless, and as I've proven, factless. You are obviously clueless about what is happening in the world, maybe you should educate yourself about these things before calling me a troll. Just a thought.
Proven? Saying you follow your gut is not proof.

A few pearls of less-than-wisdom from Rush land.. (these are a bit dated, but still downright laughable.)
Rush 1995

Some of his better ones: There are more Native Americans now that there were pre columbus (NOT True.. There were over 1 million Natives just on a single Caribbean Island when he came over), there is more forested land in America now than there was pre-Columbus (Ummm, No, about 25% is gone completely, and a large amount of what is left is new growth.), and that in ther 90's Kansas City had more people working for the government than in the private sector. (Which, btw, would reuire a greater than 50% tax rate.... It was actually closer to 5%.)

And, on the completely BFI side, "There's no such thing as an implied contract." (Radio; FRQ, Spring/93)

More recent...
Real Document

And my personal favorite..
Limbaugh Outfoxed

Saying that AIDS didn't affect heterosexuals in 2004?
Saying minimum wage was 6-7 dollars an hour?
Saying there never was a surplus under Clinton?
Talking crap about troops who have lost limbs, calling them fake unless they agree with his insanity?
Saying that gas was $1.29 a gallon in 2004?

For your own sake please, wake up... Your blind obedience is somewhat disturbing, and it lessens the arguments of sane people who have conservative ideals.

I don't really care what your gut feeling is, from what I've seen he's the biggest "mainstream" liar this country has ever seen. He's so off the board he makes Michael Moore look (almost) sane, and that takes talent.

Oh, and believe it or not, those people don't want America to lose... They're afraid that after 60 years of squandering world opinion we've already lost. Big Frick Difference.

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The Patriot Act actually protects our rights, you must be confused, or you believe the tripe the Liberals throw at you. Probably the latter.
Come on, todd. You can do better than that. I think Limbaugh has disintegrated your brain.

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In particular, the title allows government agencies to gather "foreign intelligence information" from both U.S. and non-U.S. citizens, which is defined in section 203 of the title.
USA PATRIOT Act, Title II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Come on, todd. You can do better than that. I think Limbaugh has disintegrated your brain.



USA PATRIOT Act, Title II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No disintegration here, allow me to point out a line in the link you sent me:

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It does not allow these surveillance measures to be used in violation of the First Amendment rights of U.S. citizens.
Undeniable proof that The Patriot Act actually protects our rights.
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Jack Murtha, Mrs. Bill Clinton, Barack "the clean" Obama, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, pretty much every Liberal has called for Americas defeat in Iraq.
Well, if it's so common a thought, it should be easy for you to provide quotes/links/references which clearly show that any of these people have said they want the US to lose in Iraq...

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We haven't had much Conservative leadership, but what we have had (i.e. in the area of national security and tax cuts) have been a tremendous success.
How secure is a nation, really, if its' borders are as porous as those of the United States? Bush has been nothing but a dismal failure with respect to this issue...
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Todd, noticing that Al Qaeda is growing larger and becoming more influencial is not a lie and it's not helping the enemy. If you wanted to help the enemy you would deny their strength and size and let them keep growing and strengthening.
Now see, theres something that doesn't make sense here. If terrorists are increasing like you say they are, why do the terrorists want the Democrats in power? Everybody knows that the terrorists have wanted Democrat leadership, and the problem I'm having is if the war on terror is creating terrorists like you have said it is, then why would they want it to stop? Everybody knows the Liberals will run away the first chance they get, like the gutless cowards they are, that being the case, by their logic, the terrorists will stop increasing, why would the terrorists want that? If terrorists were increasing, they would want things to stay like they are.

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You don't believe that Saudi Arabia recently demanded Cheney come there to be warned that if we leave Iraq they will arm the Sunnis? It was all over the news when it happened, not that long ago. There was a thread on this board about it. Sorry you missed that. Here's a google search. Read a link. cheney saudi arabia arm sunnis - Google Search
Sorry, I don't see any links to National Review online, or the American Thinker, all I see is stuff like the Huffington Post, and as we all know, due to the fact that those are Liberal blogs, they are indeed not accurate and extremely dishonest.

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How do you feel about them?
I'm extremely unhappy with the Saudis.

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Instead of believing every word Limbaugh says, you should use your brain and look up these things yourself to see if they are true. None of those people ever said they want America's defeat in Iraq. It's just not true. I'm worried about you Todd. You are dangerously gullible.
No, you're worried about me due to the fact that I'm not gullible. in order to secure the Liberal agenda, they need many mind-numbed robots to do this, they hate people like me due to the fact that I'm a free thinker, I say what I think, and I'm right. You see, although I might have heard the Democrats owning Americas defeat on the Rush Limbaugh Program, it wasn't Rush who said it, if you'd listen, you'd know that, no, Rush plays many sound bites and I hear the Democrats wishing for Americas defeat straight from their mouths. Unlike Liberals, Rush does not misquote, he does not take their comments out of context.

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Who orders who to do what? I have proof that Saudi Arabia called for Cheney to come to SA and I have proof that he went. I have proof that the Saudis threatened him that if we leave Iraq they will arm the Sunnis. Check the link above, there's lots of proof.