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todd93 · #46 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Steve

A "problem"?

No, they were a "problem" 30 years ago. Now, they serve as a conduit for anyone who wants to illegally enter our country to do us harm or bleed our social systems, and Bush has only decided on a strategy of appeasement.

He's a failure because he's not addressed the most basic aspect of national security: secure borders...

I agree that he's in bed with the Liberals on this, they all want open borders, but if Algore had won in 2000 we'd all either be dead, or enslaved by terrorists by now.

todd93 · #47 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by chrisw

Proven? Saying you follow your gut is not proof.

A few pearls of less-than-wisdom from Rush land.. (these are a bit dated, but still downright laughable.)
Rush 1995

Some of his better ones: There are more Native Americans now that there were pre columbus (NOT True.. There were over 1 million Natives just on a single Caribbean Island when he came over), there is more forested land in America now than there was pre-Columbus (Ummm, No, about 25% is gone completely, and a large amount of what is left is new growth.), and that in ther 90's Kansas City had more people working for the government than in the private sector. (Which, btw, would reuire a greater than 50% tax rate.... It was actually closer to 5%.)

And, on the completely BFI side, "There's no such thing as an implied contract." (Radio; FRQ, Spring/93)

More recent...
Real Document

And my personal favorite..
Limbaugh Outfoxed

Saying that AIDS didn't affect heterosexuals in 2004?
Saying minimum wage was 6-7 dollars an hour?
Saying there never was a surplus under Clinton?
Talking crap about troops who have lost limbs, calling them fake unless they agree with his insanity?
Saying that gas was $1.29 a gallon in 2004?

For your own sake please, wake up... Your blind obedience is somewhat disturbing, and it lessens the arguments of sane people who have conservative ideals.

I don't really care what your gut feeling is, from what I've seen he's the biggest "mainstream" liar this country has ever seen. He's so off the board he makes Michael Moore look (almost) sane, and that takes talent.

Oh, and believe it or not, those people don't want America to lose... They're afraid that after 60 years of squandering world opinion we've already lost. Big Frick Difference.

The links you provided are obvious mis quotes and mis characterizations of the things Rush says, they are from Liberal sources, and therefore are not credible.

I am awake, and people like me are what it's going to take to save the country. We need to enact the fair tax, and multiply the military so there will be no dispute of our power and place in the world. It was someone like me who ended the cold war. (because you probably have no idea what the cold war was, Ronald Reagan single handedly ended it.)

Steve · #48 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

I agree that he's in bed with the Liberals on this, they all want open borders, but if Algore had won in 2000 we'd all either be dead, or enslaved by terrorists by now.

"If"... "if"...

The fact is that Gore didn't win; Bush did, and he's done absolutely nothing to secure our borders.

Justifying the state of our borders by saying how bad it could've been is no justification at all. It's nothing more than a pitifully weak argument, based on nothing other than blatant partisanship, to avoid the fact that Bush is a dismal, abject failure in addressing even the most basic aspects of our national security; that being border security...

Steve · #49 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

The links you provided are obvious mis quotes and mis characterizations of the things Rush says, they are from Liberal sources, and therefore are not credible.

Limbaugh's a fuckin' buffoon.

The only bigger buffoons are the people who swallow everything he says...

Slon · #50 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

No disintegration here, allow me to point out a line in the link you sent me:

Undeniable proof that The Patriot Act actually protects our rights.

The line you pointed out is a restriction on the newly-allowed surveillance. The fact remains that it is an act that makes the government bigger and more powerful, taking away rights from citizens. The line you pointed out simply reduces that authoritarianism to a slightly lower level, but a reduction of rights it remains.

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The title allows surveillance to intercept communications via pen register or trap and trace devices. It does not allow these surveillance measures to be used in violation of the First Amendment rights of U.S. citizens. To assist in an investigation undertaken to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities, the title allows for the seizure of communications records (section 215) and any records of session times, durations of electronic communication as well as any identifying numbers or addresses of the equipment that was being used (section 210).

Birdzeye · #51 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

I have a question, Sam, maybe you could answer it. Why should Gonzales have to resign?

And in case you haven't noticed, due to the undeniable fact that the Democrats have given aid to the enemy, they are in fact the enemy. FYI.

Perhaps it's time you started backing up such ugly allegations with some reliable evidence. What a disgusting remark to make about other citizens.

Birdzeye · #52 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Samantha

He doesn't have any facts. He only has Rush Limbaugh GOP propaganda.

I think you're right. Otherwise, he'd have gleefully shared them with us, if they did, indeed, prove his as-yet unproven and ugly allegations.

Birdzeye · #53 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

I really don't think it matters whether Gonzalez stays or goes. If he stays, he will be an albatross around Bush's neck, which suits me fine. If he goes, Bush will just appoint another sleazebag.

TheStripey1 · #54 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Samantha

He'll resign in shame like Rumsfeld, but moron Bush will hold on to him as long as he can. Bush called him this morning and they had a nice chat. Probably talked about loyalty and the neocon agenda to make as much personal wealth on the war as possible. Tom Delay was interviewed on NPR this morning and he actually called the Democrats "the enemy". These people are disgusting.

DeLay was on Meet the Press sunday... he called those in the house that oppose the Iraq war, unpatriotic. Including the retired Rear Admiral freshman Congressman he was sitting next to at the table. I marvelled at the will power Joe Sestek showed by not giving DeLay a swift back hand to the chops. Like DeLay was so patriotic when it was HIS turn to serve... yeah right...

Pathetic... Absolutely pathetic.

TheStripey1 · #55 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

Who will make more "personal wealth on the war" off the war, Sam? Gonzales, or Soros?

Somehow, I doubt Gonzales has 60 million dollars worth of Halliburton stock...

Matt

I thought republicans love those that make money... Are you saying you don't? That's refreshing.

Who will make more on the war? Good question. But I bet they will all be bush pals... His base will no longer be the Have Mores, they will be the have it alls...

TheStripey1 · #56 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

I have a question, Sam, maybe you could answer it. Why should Gonzales have to resign?

And in case you haven't noticed, due to the undeniable fact that the Democrats have given aid to the enemy, they are in fact the enemy. FYI.

Bullshit. Got a link to this garbage? A credible link that is... no Murdoch sources...

TheStripey1 · #57 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by Samantha

I find it disgusting and dangerous for Americans to call eachother the enemy. United we stand, divided we fall. A country divided cannot stand. Saudi Arabia is giving aid to the enemy, not the democrats. Bush and Cheney are doing Saudi Arabia's bidding. If you call the democrats the enemy, we will never win the war on terror. You will be fighting against the wrong people and the real enemy will win. Our country is in jeopardy, I am afraid. I hope we elect a real leader who can unite our country again.

I agree.

TheStripey1 · #58 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

I agree, we need someone like Ronald Reagan, someone who isn't afraid to tell people what they think, someone who isn't afraid to confront our enemies. The Democrats have no one who will do this.

Ronnie RayGun? OGG... you mean Ron "Iran-Contra, who needs the congress" Reagan? Or Ronnie "The S&L Crisis" Reagan? which one are you referring to?

The republicans have no one like him either, Todd. Not now, not in the future.

There was only ONE Ronnie RayGun...

TheStripey1 · #59 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

This is a good point - it goes both ways, though. We see no shortage of people saying Republicans are the enemy.

Matt

I haven't seen any of this... Have you a link?

TheStripey1 · #60 (**permalink**) 03-21-2007

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Originally Posted by todd93

Allow me to re-phrase, Liberals are the enemy.

How so? Based on what?

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