You're proving your Liberalism by this post. Just the same way that you've taken what I've said in the past, in a brilliant post, completely out of context and added it to your idiotic signature, thus making anyone who agrees with this post as much of a moron as you appear to be.

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The fact remains that the Patriot Act protects our rights, if there was anything funny going on there would be hearings, and charges raised, but there have only been a few Liberals like yourself that have made the baseless claim that we're losing rights, and that has been proven to be a myth.

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Sorry, I make the mistake of believing that Liberals have some common sense which has been proven to not be true. The fact of the matter is, Liberals such as yourself have yet to back up anything, as in the first part of my post, why should Gonzales resign?

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Yes, MoveOn.org: Democracy in Action

Theres all sorts of defeatism there.

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Keep drinking the kool-aid, kid.

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Based on the well known fact that Liberals have taken ownership of defeat in the War on Terror.

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Anyone who believes the lies in this post are truly in need of some mental help.

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Dishonesty again, we had no peace in the Clintonista time, and the prosperity we enjoyed was due to the economic phenomenon known as Ronald Reagan, coupled with the Republican controlled Congress of the 1990's.

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The most basic aspect of national security must be secure borders. Everything else runs secondary.

You've made some leap that I mention the borders only with regards to terrorism. That's not my view at all. Certainly, that's something which needs to be addressed, but it's not the only reason to have secure borders.

George Bush has failed this country, miserably , with respect to national security...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Now that's a downright pathetic attempt to dodge the reasonable requests that you start backing up your vile accusations with some evidence! People with common sense will ask for evidence; people with common sense will figure that non-responses to those requests and flat-out deflection, as you just tried to pull, are a pretty good sign that you have no evidence and that you're just blowing hot air out of your posterior.

And no, I have not called for Gonzalez's ouster. I figure that if Gonzalez goes, Bush will just nominate another person who is intensely loyal to him but who has little integrity.

Please elaborate. I could just as easily provide a link to the RNC and make an equally asinine comment, like, "Lots of Nazis there." Someone on your side of the fence would demand that I elaborate, and he/she would be reasonable in doing so.

What long drawn-out war were we in during the Clinton years?

Originally Posted by todd93
Dishonesty again, we had no peace in the Clintonista time, and the prosperity we enjoyed was due to the economic phenomenon known as Ronald Reagan, coupled with the Republican controlled Congress of the 1990's.


I believe the war in question was the one where republicans were trying to pin something on the Clintons... starting with travel gate and extending non-stop until the end, when they caught him with his pants down... so to speak... culminating in a win for them... sort of...

Reagan? There was another Bush between Reagan and Clinton, todd... and there was a RECESSION... don't you recall?

The economy turned around when Clinton was elected... as much as I hate to say it... it did.

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Originally Posted by Birdzeye
Perhaps it's time you started backing up such ugly allegations with some reliable evidence. What a disgusting remark to make about other citizens.

Lurkers and guests please note todd's refusal to provide documentation for his allegations.

What's the matter todd? Can't you provide us with the links we ask? The ones that corroborate the allegations you have made? Purrfurrably from credible sources... no, sorry, rush doesn't count as credible... fox noise either... not ny post or moon's wash times...

something credible...

got any?

the tiger waves to the lurkers and guests...

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A "fact" that you have not proven. The Patriot Act has a line that slightly restricts its own authoritarian powers, as I have shown.No, it has not been proven to be a myth, just like you have not proven anything at all. Saying that there have been no hearings does not prove that it is not authoritarian, it just means (if it is true) that there were no hearings.

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