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View Poll Results: When will Gonzales resign?
Today (3/20/07) 0 0%
Tomorrow (3/21/07) 1 3.45%
By COB Friday (3/23/07) 4 13.79%
Before March is over 5 17.24%
When hell freezes over 19 65.52%
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Old 03-29-2007
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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Perhaps it's time you started backing up such ugly allegations with some reliable evidence. What a disgusting remark to make about other citizens.



Lurkers and guests please note todd's refusal to provide documentation for his allegations.

What's the matter todd? Can't you provide us with the links we ask? The ones that corroborate the allegations you have made? Purrfurrably from credible sources... no, sorry, rush doesn't count as credible... fox noise either... not ny post or moon's wash times...

something credible...

got any?

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Sorry, I reject the premise of your comments here. Due to the fact that you're Liberal, I understand that you are not accustomed to honesty. I can back up everything that I say, but I enjoy irritating you Libs. The fact of the matter is, you Liberals have no proof that Conservatives lie, or are corrupt, nor can you provide proof that the Liberal agenda isn't a Communist, or Socialist agenda. Let's face it, you want the federal government to run every aspect of peoples lives, you look at Americans with condescension and contempt. You find it insulting that people like me can make it better without Liberal BS and Liberal Socialism. Because I believe in the Constitution, there is no way I can come to believe your Liberal rantings. The fact of the matter is, if Liberals get there way, we'll be just like the Soviet Union, broke, and destroyed.

So, tell me again, why should Gonzales resign?
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Old 03-29-2007
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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A "fact" that you have not proven. The Patriot Act has a line that slightly restricts its own authoritarian powers, as I have shown.
No, the fact has been proven by law enforcement officials everywhere. Let's explore another question, shall we? What rights does the Patriot Act infringe upon? You have yet to show proof that it infringes on any Constitutional rights, and due to the fact that my rights have not been violated by the Patriot Act, then it hasn't happened to any other average citizens. Therefore it is keeping us safe, and protecting our rights.

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No, it has not been proven to be a myth, just like you have not proven anything at all. Saying that there have been no hearings does not prove that it is not authoritarian, it just means (if it is true) that there were no hearings.
Yes, it has been proven to be a myth by the simple fact that the administration was welcoming hearings on the Patriot Act and the NSA foreign intelligence program (something that has been lied about by Liberals and called domestic spying when it really isn't). The fact is, Slon, your Liberal heros knew that they would be sliced and dice because they can't run with Conservatives on any issue, they always fall. Take for example the Alito conformation hearings, he destroyed the Liberals, so did Ollie North in the 80's. Much like I'm doing right now, they ran rings around the Liberals, probably because it's so easy. So, if the Patriot Act infringes on our rights as you have falsely claimed, why aren't they pursuing that?
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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No, the fact has been proven by law enforcement officials everywhere. Let's explore another question, shall we? What rights does the Patriot Act infringe upon?
You must be blind or forgetful.

"In particular, the title allows government agencies to gather "foreign intelligence information" from both U.S. and non-U.S. citizens, which is defined in section 203 of the title."

USA PATRIOT Act, Title II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since this title ALLOWS the government to father information from US citizens, that means it is something the government could not previously legally do. Otherwise, the act would not have been written this way, since there is no point in legalizing something already legal.

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A. You could go into 40 things. I'll give you just some examples. It gives the government the right to do "sneak and peek" searches in your house. In other words, they can come in and search your house, and they don't have to tell you they were there. It does away with a lot of the Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure. . . . It gives a definition of domestic terrorism that says if there are two or more individuals, a crime has been committed if you're trying to get the government to change a policy. . . . And then there's "Carnivore," where they can go through everything on your computer.
JS Online: Patriot Act takes away rights, lawyer says




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You have yet to show proof that it infringes on any Constitutional rights, and due to the fact that my rights have not been violated by the Patriot Act, then it hasn't happened to any other average citizens. Therefore it is keeping us safe, and protecting our rights.
Wow, you just lumped a whole bunch of fallacies into one group of words. First of all, I have shown you proof. Second, just because your rights have not PERSONALLY been violated, doesn't mean no violations occurred. You might as well say no human rights violations were committed by Germany because some Germans were not exterminated. Third, even if no rights were taken away, that is not proof they are being protected. And here are some abuses:

CBS News | Patriot Act Abuses Seen | July 21, 2003 11:35:06

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Yes, it has been proven to be a myth by the simple fact that the administration was welcoming hearings on the Patriot Act and the NSA foreign intelligence program (something that has been lied about by Liberals and called domestic spying when it really isn't).
Yes, and I bet Jews were allowed to complain to the Gestapo when they weren't happy. Maybe they even welcomed it (easier to catch the jews). Does that mean there were no abuses of jews in nazi germany?
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The fact is, Slon, your Liberal heros
You're ranting again. I don't support the "liberals" or the "conservatives," since I am libertarian. Please, stop ranting incoherently.
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knew that they would be sliced and dice because they can't run with Conservatives on any issue, they always fall. Take for example the Alito conformation hearings, he destroyed the Liberals, so did Ollie North in the 80's. Much like I'm doing right now, they ran rings around the Liberals, probably because it's so easy. So, if the Patriot Act infringes on our rights as you have falsely claimed, why aren't they pursuing that?
How the hell should I know and why the hell should I care about what "the liberals" do? Why did you assume that I was a liberal? Since when are libertarians "liberals?" I don't support socialism and support gun rights. Last I heard, that wasn't a platform the dems ran on. So where the hell do you get off making totally baseless accusations?

Now take a few hours to read this post a few times, soak in what I have said, get your special ed teacher to wipe the drool off of your keyboard, and then try to formulate a coherent post that is at least partly based on fact rather than fiction. So far, all I've gotten from you is incoherent bullshit that is not based on any truth.

And here's a university site for more info:

http://www.soc.iastate.edu/sapp/PatriotActACLU.pdf
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

Its just aother of the stupid polls this poster is famous for. This one only covers March. He is clearly goign to out last March. Should have thought ahead instead of allowed your partisan zeal to think a dem majority changes everything, inluding the speed at which congress works.
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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Its just aother of the stupid polls this poster is famous for. This one only covers March. He is clearly goign to out last March. Should have thought ahead instead of allowed your partisan zeal to think a dem majority changes everything, inluding the speed at which congress works.
Excuse me? Are you referring to me as the poster who is famous for "stupid polls"? FYI, this is my first poll ever on USPO. It would be quite a trick to be famous for something I had not done before now. Perhaps (in your partisan zeal?) you're thinking of someone else?

As to Gonzales, well, March ain't over.
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Old 03-30-2007
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Re: When will Gonzales resign?

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Excuse me? Are you referring to me as the poster who is famous for "stupid polls"? FYI, this is my first poll ever on USPO. It would be quite a trick to be famous for something I had not done before now. Perhaps (in your partisan zeal?) you're thinking of someone else?

As to Gonzales, well, March ain't over.
He's just spewing his typical insults. He can't post without them!

Meanwhile I watched Sampson's squirrely testimony last night on CSPAN. Gonzales is in even deeper trouble today. Sampson made it clear that Gonzales was active in the firings, although Gonzales has claimed he was not. Gonzales will testify April 16. And the White House is still trying to prevent Rove and Miers from testifying.
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