My Way News - Court Backs Ban on Abortion Procedure

My first impression of this is that it may be another nail in the coffin of the GOP's 2008 election hopes.

This is a massive wakeup call to Pro-Choice Republicans, that the anti-abortion plank is not just there to get enough votes to pass tax cuts, it's really there and these guys are really on the Supreme Court.

I'd say the Democrats just picked up 5 points in the Womens vote.

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Fairly big news:

Commentary: The description of the procedure (see above) seems to be fairly narrowly defined. It is notably not a ban on abortions past a certain period of pregnancy, but a ban a (particularly brutal and disturbing) method of abortion. I, personally, support the decision.

Finally, some progress in the courtroom. One of the most gruesome and appalling methods of abortion has been banned by the court.

Good to know I am not the only one horrifed enough to outlaw such practices.

Until we can nail down a point where the baby becomes a person (therefore protected by the Constitution) we will always have this argument.

NOTE: I am pro-choice.

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Abortion IS brutal. It is intended to kill a fetus. Period. I don't understand why you think this method is particularly more brutal than say, a D&C or Suction Aspiration whereby the killing of the fetus is done inutero. The brutality and the result are identical!

MOST people are averse to partial birth not because it is more brutal but because it is more commonly performed later in the pregnancy. A D&C can be performed quite early.

Your logic is faulty.

And for this reason alone do I believe that the complete ban is wrong. Just like millions of other people, you equate "partial birth" with killing a full term baby. This is not necessarily the case.

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This is an interesting precedent. I will be watching to see how it goes.

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And, yet, abortion remains legal.

You won the battle, but you'll lose the war...

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I haven't had a chance to check this out yet, but at first glance I have to say this is a good thing.

However,

I am puzzled as to why you think this is another nail in the coffin of the GOP. as far as I know, it was the republicans (consetrvatives) who were in favor of this. I thought, as a liberal, that I was going against the grain of the Liberal agenda. I suspect that comparatively speaking,there are very few Pro-Choice Repubicans

Whoa there!
What logic is faulty? Where did I even attempt to employ logic? I made an observation about the nature of the law and said I agreed with the court decision. How can my logic be faulty?
And where did I equate "'partial birth' with killing a full term baby"?
Kindly don't toss me in with "millions of other people" just so you can label me!

Brutality is, admittedly, subjective. I would say that there is something especially brutal and disturbing about the doctor looking directly at the fetus'/baby's head and then plunging a sharp instrament into it.

I support the decision because it bans a procedure in which the fetus/baby is half-way out of the women before being killed and is then removed the rest of the way. It's not like the women is avoiding the birth procedure here.
They might as well remove it without stabbing it.
If it really isn't viable, it'll die and the result is the same as an abortion.
If it is viable and can live outside the womb, then thank goodness we didn't stab it in the head!

I'm also confused as to why you think this is bad for the GOP.

As far as I know, the ban was supported by a slight majority of the population in general, and nothing rallies the base on the Right like the issue of abortion.

But the POPE Makes the Rules of the church. Dont Be suprised if those catholic judges get refused to get served during communion mass. Cause Preist must follow the Popes Orders is not to serve communion during mass if any politican or judge supports abortion. So if Justice Roberts,Scalia,Thomas and Altio are all Catholics that means if they attend mass the preist must tell them to step aside if they serve it anyway the pope shal fire the preist.

I think Goober is implying this may deepen the inherent split in the GOP between big business/fiscal conservative republicans and the bible belt/moral majority faction that has been swelling republican ranks since the time of the civil rights and voting rights acts.

Republicans are facing the same issues that used to plague democrats back when these people were "dixiecrats". Reagan succesfully galvanized these voters without actually delivering on any of their interests so there was no conflict for old line republicans. But w has come through with some supreme court appointments and makes the right noises on creationism in the science class/gay marriage type issues. That means republicans who lean toward civil freedom or libertrian views will have a more difficult choice to make in 2008.

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Step by step. Wars are not won in a day, but this is definitely positive news.

It's also no big surprise.

Abortion will never be made illegal. Never...

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But, you can't back that statement up now, can you?