So, no School Choice?

Tommy Thompson (Fred's smarter brother) would be disgusted.

I agree. The busing bullshit is absolutely stupid! Why bus a student 20 miles down the road to meet a quota when there's a school 1/2 mile from him????

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No. Quit pretending. You guys can't hide it.

It only means rich schools for white kids and poor schools for minorities. That's the bottomline.

Yep, it's the old "separate but equal" crap a much wiser Supreme Court threw out 50 years ago.

Plessy v. Ferguson, take two.

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- Hermann Goering

read my post..the one several posts back..and get a grip....

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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You know this decision doesn't mean much, all it state's is that race is not able to be used as the mitigating factor when deciding where someone goes to school.

It doesn't rule out race as a factor altogether. Of course the day will come when it does...

I live one block from my 5th grader's school. Yet, the kids across the street from the school go to a school about 3 miles away. The reason? There is a massive apartment complex about a mile away that is completely Section 8 housing. Something like 5,000 people live in this complex. My school district redrew their boundary lines before this complex was built, in anticipation of being overrun with kids who'd need services they couldn't afford to provide. So, the next school district to the east was forced to take them in. It so happens that the next school district over has higher home values, and thus a higher funding base with which to work.

So, the real culprit here is, IMO, the school funding formula utilized in many states. That is, the local school district collects from the property taxes assessed in its own district. So, if you live in an area with multi-million dollar homes, you'll likely have a top-tier school district. If you live where I live, where the average home price is around $200,000 (which, in the Midwest, is typical middle-class), you'll have a decent school district. But if you live in the inner city, where the average home price is $40-$90,000, you'll have a shit school district.

And that's exactly what you see here & in many other states. The quick solution would be to pool the property tax money in the state capital & then disperse it equally amongst all school districts. It's absurd that Jerome lives in a district where the spending per pupil is $2,800, while Johnny gets a better education because spending is $5,600 per pupil, based entirely upon the values of homes & businesses in the radius around the school.

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interesting.....hummmm

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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In St. Tammany Parish, we have students from all walks of life going to each school. Race or wealth isn't a factor but rather whether or not you live in the district. This means that students living in homes worth $500,000 go to school with kids from $25,000 homes. The last I remember reading, the parish as a whole spends about $8000 per student.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Mark,

It's all about a sense of community- something that most places are losing, and the South never had in the first place.

FYI, in our district we passed a referendum last year to remodel our schools.
The swing-vote were the 60 + crowd who decided it was needed for the sake of the town and its kids.


And that's because most have kids in the public schools. I remember reading of a community in Ariziona which was deliberately letting its schools go to ruin.

Why?

Seems a major retirement 'village' had been built and most of the oldsters were White retirees from the Midwest and NE, while most of the kids were Indians from local families.

Ammend that to say 'Grandkids'.

68 year-old Norwegian women are hotter than a bottle rocket in July, but their fertility rate is still understandably quite low.

you really shouldotpsyt when you're under the infuence...are you kidding me or what?? "the south never had it"?

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

well, that explains a lot...

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

What the fuck makes you think that you know about every town in the South??? Because you read it in some stupid book? What a fucking joke you are. I'm so sick of your arrogant posts about full of bullshit that you obviously know nothing about. Either start posting the truth or shut the hell up.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Ding ding ding ding!

MT gets the prize!

That's exactly it. Funding (generally) is not distributed at the state level, but at the district level. So, without busing, poor kids end up at underfunded schools, and rich kids end up at well-funded schools. The result? The rich kids get the environment they need to succeed, and the poor kids get screwed again.

Also, the research clearly demonstrates (I don't have a link, it was studies we read on paper while I was in teaching school - if you don't believe me, I understand) that integrating rich and poor kids results in the poor kids' increased performance, and no impact on the rich. It seems that the rich kids' standards, including a valuing of education, rub off on the poor kids and set an example for them.

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