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To the contrary, I am well versed in Southern society- its mores and subtleties.

I'm down there about 3 times/year on average.

I also know that there is no the SOB's have any concerns about the people in, say, Byrnes Down- much less Bowman or Miley.

'The matron living in downtown Charleston might as well be on Mars compared to the worker in Birmingham.'- National Geographic.

This is not unique to the South, just exercebated to the point to where 'community' does not enter the picture.

Hence, the traditional lack of support for public education which characterizes the region.
Oh! I get it. You're in one southern state three times a year and feel that you're well-versed on all of them!!! Too bad you're dead wrong.
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No, on a typical trip I spend time in 5.


So please show me that the South was not the last region of the US to mandate a public school system?


www.sefatl.org/pdf/headstart_brief.pdf -

State: Schools still rank near the bottom - 38k

Perhaps you should read these, also, if you'd like.
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Re: Supreme court historic ruling says race not factor in enrollment

DCBA Brief, June 2004 - Brown: A Big Step in America’s Slow Journey To Equality - 32k

Another discussion of Southern Public Ed.

Note the correlation between race and lack of public support.
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No, on a typical trip I spend time in 5.


So please show me that the South was not the last region of the US to mandate a public school system?


www.sefatl.org/pdf/headstart_brief.pdf -

State: Schools still rank near the bottom - 38k

Perhaps you should read these, also, if you'd like.
Never said it wasn't genius.
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I know, poor baby. But you can't run to Uncle Sammy any more to kiss it and make it all better. It would be an HONOR to be on your 'Ignore List'. Thank you! In the mean time please ignore this:

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In order to end segregation you must make efforts to diversify and integrate.
FORCED segregation is OVER, and will NOT be reinstated, EVER! Everyone has the RIGHT to live or not live anywhere they want. FORCING people to conform to your social engineering is coming to an end.

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It is prior ruling is not a racist policy. The policy was integration to end segregation. It was a ruling that was the result and response to segregation in America.
If it's 'race' based it's a racist policy. Plain and simple. Forced segregation has ended. Stop trying to force people to conform to your ideology.

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The new ruling ends that.
Yup, it sure does!

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Wake up. This nation isn't equal. This nation is still very much divided along racial lines.
Ah, the classic Liberal whine. 50 years of liberal social engineering and the nation is just as divided as ever, and in many cases even more so. I guess the lesson there is...'We need MORE liberal social engineering. Yeah, that's it!

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How do you end segregation if you do nothing about it?
Again, FORCED segregation is over. What you can't tolerate is people thinking for themselves and making personal choices over their own lives and deciding where they WANT to live.

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How does a black man go from slavery to an equal citizen with those that would have been his slave master?
Oh this is precious! The classic Victimist quote. All blacks living today were slaves, and all whites living today were slave masters. That's a whole lotta really, really old people running around. Keep'm thinking that ol' massa is gonna chain 'em up and get back on the plantation. Your a perfect example of 'Liberal Racism'!

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Are you saying MLK's efforts were wrong? Are you saying that his legacy was racist?
That "legacy" was something to do about not judging people on the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I'd say he got it right, and so did the Supreme Court.

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"When there is segregation something must be done to force integration on those who still refused to accept Black people as equal."
Correction: "When there is [FORCED] segregation something must be done."

Funny, I remember some black people who refused to except Asians as equals in their neighborhoods and either shot them dead, or burned down their stores. I think that also happened in LA a few years ago. It's like the 'Rainbow Coalition' idea of diversity...Any color in the rainbow, so long as it's black.

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It is one of the worst rulings in America's history.
For you it maybe. Everyone else will have to earn their place through hard work and merit.

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How can it be racist to promote integration in a nation that had slaves based on race?
Ah, were back on the plantation again! LOL! Always living in the past.... Someone elses past.

'Promoting' and 'forcing' are two different things. Here's an idea, let people think for themselves. One of the freedoms we have is 'freedom of thought'. And the RIGHT to socialize with whom ever we please.

Like I said, all you can do now is go pound sand.
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How can it be racist to promote integration in a nation that had slaves based on race?
How is it anything other than racist for the government to say to a kid, "You may not go to this school, you must go to that one because of your race."?

It may be racism with best of intentions, but it is racism none-the-less. Someone is being discriminated against by the government because they're the wrong color. That's not OK with me.
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faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/soc/355lect11.htm - 28k - Cached .

Too bad Mr. Diaz's America exists only on paper.
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How is it anything other than racist for the government to say to a kid, "You may not go to this school, you must go to that one because of your race."?

It may be racism with best of intentions, but it is racism none-the-less. Someone is being discriminated against by the government because they're the wrong color. That's not OK with me.
No no. You ignore a very very important factor to make it sound like you got it all figured out.

It means white neighborhoods go to rich white schools and poor black neighborhoods go to poor black schools. It means that kids that grow up don't learn diversity and you know what I'm saying is right and how you force yourself to disagree with me is a hint of racism because how can anyone disagree to that?

It is positive integration not hateful racism. DON'T EVER CONFUSE THE TWO OR COMPARE THEM.
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No no. You ignore a very very important factor to make it sound like you got it all figured out.

It means white neighborhoods go to rich white schools and poor black neighborhoods go to poor black schools. It means that kids that grow up don't learn diversity and you know what I'm saying is right and how you force yourself to disagree with me is a hint of racism because how can anyone disagree to that?

It is positive integration not hateful racism. DON'T EVER CONFUSE THE TWO.
How do you explain the diversity in the schools in my city?
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How do you explain the diversity in the schools in my city?
Brown v. Board of Education. That's how I explain it. Any other ingenious questions?
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Brown v. Board. of Education. That's how I explain it. Any other ingenious questions?
When I was in school, we only had two high schools and they were divided by district. If you lived on the north side of town, rich or poor, black or white, you went to Slidell High. If you lived on the south side, rich or poor, black or white, you went to Salmen High. Due to population growth, we now have another high school but it's also mixed with rich and poor, black and white.
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What do you know about the south today, genius? Absolutely fucking nothing, that's what.
But, he posted a fairly accurate "Cliff's Notes" version of Southern history up through at least the late 1960s.
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Oh gee. Such trivia. In other words, you've no idea if the people of the south have a "sense of community" but yet you spew bullshit statements as though you're an authority. We've got it, okay? We know you don't like the south and you think we're all inferior to you so why don't you just STFU about us for a while?
Before Katrina, did you involve New Orleans' 9th Ward in your "community?" Did you have 'em over for BBQs & ice-cream socials & such?

Yeah, I didn't fuckin' think so.

And wasn't it you who, just a few months back, was bitchin' about all your new neighbors? Some "community" you got down there. . .
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don't waste your time Sugah...he has never been to the south other than driving through it perhaps....he hasn't the foggeist idea what he is talking about which it appears, is not new....
And someone from the Bay is an expert?

My family roots are in the South in an old plantation town. I DO know what the fuck I'M talking about. Segregation & racism are most CERTAINLY alive & well in the South. And this ruling will help ensure it stays that way. . .

Wasn't it just two years ago that the geniuses over in Columbus, Georgia proposed a "white prom" and a "black prom?" Some sense of community.
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When I was in school, we only had two high schools and they were divided by district. If you lived on the north side of town, rich or poor, black or white, you went to Slidell High. If you lived on the south side, rich or poor, black or white, you went to Salmen High. Due to population growth, we now have another high school but it's also mixed with rich and poor, black and white.
Oh my god. Okay Mrs. M, your city is perfect just like all the other cities in this nation. Racism doesn't exist in this country and diversity in schools just happenes by itself.

What am I missing here? Please make additions if I forgot any of your points.
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