Perhaps not speech, but the right to piss on your own property. Do you feel that shouldn't be a right?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

...Who pissed on a flag?

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-Smedley Butler, who saved America from fascism in the 30's.

Apparently, he's attempting to back up what appears to be his anti-free-speech argument by pointing out an extreme scenario and associating it with all anti-war speech, even though such a scenario, even if it happened all the time, would not justify banning free speech, and doesn't necessarily equate to speech anyway.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Is this your viewpoint from a policy standpoint or do you believe that this is just common decency?

I think it would be safe to say that any reasonable person would believe that not all of the soldiers named oppose the war.

One: I'm all for free speech, if that isn't evident. Two: I didn't point out any scenario; someone else did, and I want to know what kind of bastard would piss on the flag. Something tells me you think I'm some fascist, anti-people, anti-American, which I'm not, especially considering I was born in the U.S.

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War is a racket, no more. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that the vast majority of the people don't know about, and that only a small inside group understands. A racket is designed to benefit the few at the expense of the many.

-Smedley Butler, who saved America from fascism in the 30's.

Hence the reason I said "he," not "you."Really? You made all those conclusions regarding what I think about you from reading my comments regarding Meridious's argument? Are you two identical twins with identical opinions, or something?Why would opposing free speech make you anti-people and anti-American, and why would being born in America stop you from being fascist?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Totally different situation.
The names of war dead are in the public record. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy, the names are published.
That's a lot different than revealing a doctor patient relationship where privacy is expected.

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"We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics"
FDR's second Inaugural Address

no reasonable expectation that people will respect their wishes when it comes to their dead sons? seems a little harsh? At least they have a reasonable expectation for common respect.

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we are discussing expectations regarding privacy and speech, not respect and speech. I don't believe there are any laws regarding forced respect, as opposed to forced privacy in some cases.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Sorry; I was unclear on who you were talking about. And no, we most certainly aren't.

Opposing free speech is the same as opposing the right to decide what's best for you, and leaving that to the superrich government that wants to exploit you.

Being born in America would not stop anyone from being fascist; however, it would almost invariably keep you from being anti-American. And anyone that knows their civics and history and that reads credible things instead of watching the brainwashing tube all the time would realize that, with the amount of greed in the world, fascism would be a terrible thing. I have yet to see any fascist countries that have not been overthrown or sincerely hated by the people, unless the people were full of propaganda like Nazi Germany and most of Modern America.

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War is a racket, no more. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that the vast majority of the people don't know about, and that only a small inside group understands. A racket is designed to benefit the few at the expense of the many.

-Smedley Butler, who saved America from fascism in the 30's.

Hardly. I don't need to necessarily speak out to decide what is best for me.I think what you are referring to is a nanny-state government, not an anti-free speech government.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

??? That almost made sense.

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War is a racket, no more. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that the vast majority of the people don't know about, and that only a small inside group understands. A racket is designed to benefit the few at the expense of the many.

-Smedley Butler, who saved America from fascism in the 30's.

None of these have anything to do with "privacy", they all derive out of common law tort principals. If it were an issue of "privacy" the use to which the name or information is put to would be irrelevant.

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are you going to sue newspapers who list the names of casualties as well?

I hear the argument, but these people gave their lives representing the US, and that is a very PUBLIC action.

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