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I think this is pretty self-explanatory. Obviously a major violation of free speech.

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It certainly is a violation of free speech. But, unconstitutional? Hardly. The Constitution (that is, the first Amendment) only says that Congress cannot make laws abridging the freedom of speech.

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Yes, Unconstitutional. The Bill of Rights binds all levels of government.

Matt

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How does "Congress" mean, "all levels of government."

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Since the late 1800's the Supreme Court has held that the 14th Amendment suffices to apply the basic rights of the Constitutions to the states. It's complicated but you can read up on it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourtee...ividual_rights

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your title doesn't quite do it for me....I don’t consider having to ask people to keep the names of dead soldiers off their anti war t shirts a violation of free speech.....if it were my son and I believed he died in vane and agreed I would expect to be asked first, if I didn’t agree same..don’t use my sons name for your own political statement..find your own that do believe so..though I expect that they won’t find very many which is probably why they didn’t ask....

would you feel the same if anti abortion activists used the names of females who had abortions, on anti abortion t shirts?

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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So using the name of someone's relative without permission is not free speech?I would allow it, of course. You don't really make any argument that explains how this isn't speech.

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Isnt this a privacy issue?

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How so? Did the T-shirt makers invade your house to get the name of the soldier? Since when is use of someone's name considered a privacy issue? They are serving in a publicly funded conflict, after all.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

I am not very concerned with the Supreme Courts intrepretation. SCOTUS may say anything that it likes, but this does not make it correct.

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...Yes.

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I agree.

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Why agree with a refuted position?

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can I put your name on a shirt and make a profit off it?
wouldnt you be calling a lawyer?

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No, I wouldn't be calling a lawyer. Why in the hell would you assume I would be?

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