Theoretically prisons are places where people go to be punished. The punishment is in losing their freedom. Historically prisons used to be where people were taken to be tortured, that was their punishment. Since we dispense with torture (well most of us have) prisons are simply places of incarceration.

They can be places for rehabilitation as well. In theory. One problem with that is that frequently prison is where someone goes who has finally committed one too many offences and has been through every diversionary programme known to society and still isn't rehabilitated and so when they eventually get sentenced it's just a question of keeping them out of society for a few years.

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The US is a failed society, that's why the foregoing situation is at it is. The response to crime in the US is very similar to the failed society of Britain in the 18th Century, savage revenge wreaked by ineffective authorities on the citizenry.

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Looks like a big "NO" to me...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

There is a big difference between "no, I will not" and "no, I cannot".

And as I stated above, I will not.

If you ever learn how to be civil, then perhaps sometime I might take your posts seriously. Until then, the answer is indeed, "no".

Your answer is "No, I will not, because I cannot".

That much is clear.

I posted what I think would be some good measures for our prison system to take.

Do you have issues with any of those?

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Actually the United States is the most successful nation to emerge in the modern era. While the US approach to inprisonment is both ineffective and costly, the very fact that the US economy and industry can support such a heavy burden with nary a stumble is testiment to the success of capitalism and individual freedom.

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Thank you for providing just a few good examples of why the US is NOT a failed society.

(You were more diplomatic in your response than the comment was.)

Actually, it's a testament to the US's ability to incur mountains of debt.

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JEWS DID 9/11!

Oh, sorry, are you in the wrong thread?

But seriously, folks if you cannot grasp economics don't even bother shooting your mouth off about the 'national debt'.

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Maybe it was Eskimos, G-boy.

So what do you know about economics, lad?

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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

--Hunter S. Thompson

I know that the government was paid a large sum of JEW-GOLD for 9/11.

No seriously, this thread is about prison reform, it's not your toilet. Go back to shitting in the 9/11 threads.

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Aw c'mon, I want to see if you really know something about economics.

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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush?

--Hunter S. Thompson

An economy isn't a society. During the time of the greatest oppression in the English criminal justice system, Britain was a world power, very strong mercantilist economy but a failed society. The point I was making was the incredibly vicious criminal justice system that the US has. It's more akin to a mediaeval society in its approach to criminal justice than a modern, industrialised society.

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- did I hurt your feelings?

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So if a nation's approach to criminal justice fails to please your personal moral benchmark, it's a failed state? So what's a non-failed state, and why is it so?

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