Your proof of that statement is...... Spad says so. Oh, and of course you could check prison records. They will report very few rapes in prison. Right spad? Not that you checked, did you Spad?


Well, there's the proof. It's prosecuted vigorously IN PRISON. Therefore it must not happen very much. Yes, certainly people facing life sentences, or 20, 30, or 40 years are DEATHLY afraid of getting a few more added on.


Although I know it is nearly impossible to verify credentials here, it is possible to recognize when somebody is a bald faced liar. That's one of the cool things about the internet. You can post anonymously, and therefore you can find a lot of honesty on the internet. People will tell things to anonymous friends they might not ever tell a real life friend.

The converse is true also. People can LIE on the internet, and it happens all the time. You can be whatever you want to be, and even if you're found out, just make a knew name and join a new forum.

This guy is a liar. (I understand this personal attack may cause me to be banned. I don't mind going out this way. To me it goes 1. Murder (worst thing), rape 2nd, liar come in a close 3rd. Hate them.)

He doesn't have the slightest clue what goes on in prison. While he's accusing folk of getting their "prison" information from tv; that's an often used childish ploy, He is in fact the one who has never been there, knows nobody that works there, and knows only what tv and his fantasies tell him.


Deep, very deep. Are you suggesting if you were locked up for 10 or more years you'd resort to homosexuality to fulfill your needs? Therefore; it must be that others would too?

Are you rational at all?

Enlighten me. what kidnapping, commandeered vehicle, and expended bullets might you be referring to? You directed that at me in regards to my brothers' story.

Unless I'm proven differently your "thinking" is somewhat suspect.


Almost "all of them"? I have a word for you Jesus. You mean all of us. You don't think you do, because you're brain damaged, but you DO mean all of us. YOU are included in US. YOU are a criminal. go ahead and give me ANOTHER reason to call you a liar and say you have NEVER .... and I'll quote YOUR definition "impact(ed) another’s life in a severe and negative manner..." If you say you have NEVER done such a thing, every single person that reads this thread will know you for what I already know you are you self-righteous hypocrit.


As stated previously, my brother is in prison for alcohol abuse. Yes, the guy you are insisting belongs there. He drove drunk. No, there was no accident. No human being was harmed. Nobodies' life ACCEPT HIS was harmed in a severe or negative manner.

There was no victim you miscreant. The accuser he faced was the state of Texas, period.


You are either VERY young or an extremely deluded adult human being.

It would be interesting to be able to verify your alleged experience. I've seen NOTHING in anything you've said to hint you have any. If you bought this enlightenment from some college; You were ripped off. You should demand your money back. You are clueless.

I agree completly. The only thing is, once we begn the policy, there will be no turning back. Any and all who enter will become human waste, unfit for release back to decent society. For this reason all prisoners should be incarcerated for life (although a swift execution would be cheaper) with no eligability for release, wheather the crime be perjury (Scooter) or rape and murder of 30 pre-school children.

I think realistically you have to strike a balance between punishment and rehabilitation. For as I've stated, in the United States at least there are 2 million plus people in the population and that number has been slowly increasing and continuing to do so. With nearly half of the prison population not being the worst offenders that society focuses on. That nearly half are the people who will eventually be rejoining society. Question is, do we want to push them to be worst offenders when they do.

That being said, I do think the punishment should fit the crime and that prison shouldn't by any means be a daycamp, I mean why the hell do inmates need cable tv? Still, I think society as a whole is quick to judge people on past mistakes and keep punishing them. As shown by the making of hoop-la out of the past history of a Thompson's campaign co-chair. I mean look at the title of the thread that Mkultra started.

"Fred Thompsons campaign chair is a drug dealer"

Now that just implies he is, and always will be a drug dealer. Meh.

I think it varies from prison to prison what they allow inmates to do with eachother, and just because there are very few actual rapes in these places doesnt mean that most of what happens is consensual. I would sure like to hear your opinion of the matter again after spending a couple of months behind bars as a cop. You would probably think that you've been fucked by a freight train!

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Those that are to be released into society again should as a minimum have the right to be isolated under good conditions. Its not in the interest of society to get animals out on the street.
Its really not a big deal that they are able to watch cable TV together on a small screen. Its not like they have their own TV in the cell like danish prisoners have.

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Well, my young apprentice, I am probably double your age and have been in law enforcement since before you were probably born. If your mother were really in corrections, she would have taught you that we are “Corrections Officers”, rather than guards. We happen to be state certified Peace Officers.

I don’t need to explain to every snot-nosed kid what I do, as most that have been on this forum for any length of time know me and what I am. If you desire to throw shit without checking anything, so be it.

I happen to work in the prison system right now as a C/O, and have been with the PD in a major city for 15 years before I retired. Anything that you have experienced, all I can say is “Been There, Done That.”

You obviously have a chip on your shoulder. Sorry, but I can’t do anything about that.

RE: Prison Treatment: Inmates (or “Offenders” as is currently in vogue, or “Clients” as some PC types would like) are actually real people. If one treats them in a civilized manner, they will be civilized right back. True, they are in prison, but most will try to make the best of the situation, and will work to get out of their incarceration. They have committed a felony, and the vast majority of them have committed more than one before actually being incarcerated.

The last PREA case that I handled was a year ago. The status of the involvement of the parties was questionable as to whether it was rape or consensual. The “victim” was known as a solicitor, and there were no witnesses in either’s favor. He had been caught several times in a compromising position on a voluntary basis.

I doubt if you have even had a “tour” of a facility, as they are simply not done. Having not gone through any training, you would not be allowed out of the immediate protection of a trained C/O. Your whole attitude smacks of bullshit and resentment. You are the reason that the fallacies are perpetuated, through your ignorance and biases. You actually sound like an inmate on release.

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I love the constitution

I hate criminals and pampering and coddling criminals who by being criminals IMHO lose their rights until their debt to society is paid

before the liberal court system ( view my opinion of liberals in my signature [ change the words , to synonyms] ) went pansy on us , that was exactly the way it was defined.

the reason criminal become more criminal in prison is that they are coddled and allowed privacy and recreation and free time .

they are not in prison as a daycare system it is SUPPOSED to be hell so they change theior ways when they get out so they dont go back .

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Someone who "loves" the constitution wouldnt' write something like this:


Given this:

The rest of your comments?

Your blind hatred is unfortunate, but given the evident lack of moral or intellectual development, it's not surprising.

"I neutered the cat?" So elementary school.

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The constitution nowhere says that prison should be a kiddie daycare center.
and the quote you took from it in no way contradicts the outline of what a prison should be which I described.

Just because you or some other liberal thinks that actually punishing a person for a crime or making the punishment very strict constitutes cruel and excessive penalties
doesnt make it so, nothing cruel or excessive was in that outline of what a prison should be like.

in fact there would be no gangs or rapes , or drug trafficking , or other crimes which are committed inside the prisons of today's walls.

the prisoners would never be unsupervised and would not have the free time ( or energy ) to do those things.


the lack of moral or intellectual development is evident on the other side of the issue , not mine .

as to the signature , I figured it was more forum friendly than calling the liberals ****less pussies...

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Spad, when I came back to this site and read your snotty post to me, my first instinct was to wonder what I'd said to you to earn such a response. I then scrolled up to read what you were responding to and I had to admit, I was pretty snotty at you. Then I scrolled FURTHER up to find what you'd said that I'd responded to snottily.

Spad, without doing a lot of copy/pasting of that original reply, you just flat out called me a know nothing liar.

Is that your usual method of debate? I'm just asking because I'm relatively new here, and this is our first meeting. YOU know, and anybody else who goes to the bother of scrolling up knows, I was not talking to you. I had never INSULTED you, I had stated my feelings and opinions on a subject. YOU initiated a conversation with me. You did so with a condescending attitude and were very insulting. Why?

Now. I am PRETTY DARN SURE that I am 1. NO apprentice of yours. and 2. Not half your age unless you are 90 years old.

You don't sound 90 years old, don't sound wise at all, not even very smart. If you were an intelligent 90 year old man; surely you'd have developed better social skills by now.

And again you accuse me of lying. Yes, my mother is/was (not dead, doesn't work there anymore), everything I said she was. Yes, you are correct, I do remember that the proper term is correctional officer. In our casual conversations though I will insist she used the word guard, so does my brother in-law that still works there today. I guess it's just easier to say.

I'm not a snot-nosed kid you senile 90 year old man, I'm a 45 year old middle aged GROWN man.

For your information, ON THE INTERNET, yes you DO need to explain the shit you say. Kind of funny you talking about "checking anything". I didn't see you offer any proof of credentials. What exactly is it you are accusing me of not checking mr. alzheimer.

Please state the names of any on this forum "for any length of time" who know FOR A FACT who you are and what your credentials are. Don't just imply they exist.


You still work as a C/O at the age of 90??????? My, but aren't you the underachiever! My mother was promoted OUT of that position after only 10 years.

IMO, that's the pot calling the kettle black. I didn't come here looking for a fight. Anybody caring to bother to scroll up can see who was spoiling for a fight.


You see, here is what happened. You picked the wrong guy captain condescendo to condescend to. I wasn't trying to prove anything to anybody (as you are), I just joined a thread and put in my opinion based on my experience and what I know. I told the truth, and anybody HERE can find out if I'm telling the truth. No, I'm not going to give out personal details, I'm just going to tell you to check it out. Check with your local law enforcement, check mainly with the PROBATION officers, and see if it is possible that I've told the truth about my brother.

I'll state it again so that no scrolling around is necessary.

My brother is an alcohol and drug abuser. He has been since he was a teenager.

He has never commited ANY crime that most of us are concerned with. I'll put it this way, he has never commited a crime in which there is an accuser that is an actual human being.

But, he got a bunch of DWI's and public intoxications. Not once was any other vehicle involved. All of the DWI's, accept one, did not involve accidents. He was pulled over for a variety of reasons, weaving, driving recklessly, stickers out, lights out, etc... But I want to state again, not one single accident involving anybody else but himself. I mentioned there was one. He drove off the road and hit a sign. The only thing hurt besides the sign, was himself.

Now, he kept digging himself deeper and deeper with each DWI. He was on probation. My brother wound up being on probation for over 20 years. Pretty much since he graduated highschool and got his first DWI. He never got out of it. He'd get another DWI, or he'd pee dirty.

Later as they kept turning the screws, he'd get "revoked" (recognize that word mr. I'mthelaw?) for simply not living in a place they liked, or not getting a job in time, when he was no longer allowed to drive and had to go see the probation officer every other day and go to AA 3 days a week, and get an SR22.

In the last few years; as much as I tried to give him moral support, he told me he didn't see any chance of digging out of the hole he was in. He felt no matter how hard he tried they were going to send him to prison. His probation officer told me EXACTLY the same thing. His probation officer told me he was 100% certain he would wind up in prison.

Regardless whether you believe me mr. doesn'tknowcrapaboutprison. I know there are bound to be people that know I'm telling the truth. What they do is keep escalating the crime. What was originally a minor misdemeanor getting you no more than a fine they keep ramping up until they can call it a felony. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying my brother did not do his part to give them the legal right to ramp it up.

From my brother's standpoint though, I see it. There is no victim. My brother is saying "who did I hurt?".

I was driving along, drinking some beer. I had a burnt out tail light. I get pulled over, the cop sees the beer and I am drunk, yeah I am. I go to jail for DWI. I get a fine and 2 years probation.

I'm a young man, doing well, life is good. I pay the fine. I report for probation. I'm also a man that feels I did nothing wrong. I didn't hurt anybody.

I'm a little older, payed my fine, but still on probation. I am driving along, drinking some beer and listening to some music. I get pulled over for a tag light out. "oh sorry officer, I'll get that fixed", "you been drinking?" "yeah, that's why I'm way out here on this country road. Just cruising, drinking a few beers and listening to the radio", "step out of the car please". "What?"

"You been drinking?", "Sir I already told you that, yeah".

So Texas passes a law that 3rd DWI is a F E L O N Y. You can go to prison for that.

You don't have to have hurt anybody or any property, just 3 arrests for DWI and you are a FELON.

I'm getting tired so I'm going to start shortening the story. The result is mr. knowshowitisinprison is my brother who's chief crime if you could look it up is that he's driven drunk, is now in prison for 5 years.

It took this wonderful system 25 years to decide that.

25 years. Yes, from first DWI to now when they have finally sent my brother to prison, not one single one of those years has he spent free. Not one single month, week, or day of that 25 years did he manage to squeeze free from the law of JUSTICE.

Does he have any responsibility for that? Of course yes. He was ordered to not use any drugs. That includes alcohol. My brother could not do it. My brother to this day says "I never hurt anybody". He says "I've done nothing to deserve enslavement, to deserve a ruler called the state of Texas".

He was not able to live as a slave. He said when/if he hurts somebody, then they have a right to crucify me. Until that day, I have to live my life.

I'm NOT trying to support or ok alcoholism/drug use. I guarantee (4 kids) I'm among the first to get up there and tell kids, stay away from it, it's no good.

Nobody, in my brothers' life tried harder to get my brother to sober up than me.

I couldn't be more proud of you if your were my own son. Your humanity is to be envied, it should be studied.

mr condescension 90 year old buffoon. I don't need a tour, I WORKED there. No, I've never been an inmate, in prison. I've managed to get myself in Jail, that's personal and none of your business old man. Jail and prison are two different things. I know that, and you do to right gramps?

I was never a guard either, oh yeah C/O. I was an independent contractor for 3 years. I never represented myself as having been a guard, I said I worked there. I did.

You sound like somebody that has gone cold-hearted. You'd vote for the police state if you could, in hope it will take away ANY possible danger to you. It's an indication of fear.

I don't dislike you for having fear. I think fear is a normal response to having loved ones that you are expected to secure.

You represent a kind of fear though that harms other people. You are SO afraid of ANY kind of confrontation that you would HUZZAH the imprisoning of a man that has never harmed anybody.

The name of THAT kind of fear Spad is and has always been called COWARDICE.

Let's put it into reality, what this guy who claims to be a correctional officer is saying.

He claims that the vast majority of the time when a prisoner is screwed (sexually), you know, in the butt. It's consensual.

Contrary to what many of you MIGHT be thinking. What he said there made me believe he really might be a prison GUARD.

"correctional OFFICER". Surely this man could elaborate for us how he comes to this conclusion.

Hey spad, SURELY a man denied female companionship will resort to homosexual sex. right?

That's just common knowledge.

Who are you?

No, WHAT are you?

My guess? My initial guess remains the same. You're a fraud, complete and total fraud, who knows only from books and or tv what goes on in prison.

My other guess would be VERY dirty prison GUARD. Cop? Proably fired.

The proper term is "regressed" not "revoked", Mr. IliketoinsultanyonethatdisagreeswithmealthoughIwil linglybreakthelawonnumerousoccasions.

You admit to numerous transgressions, over long periods of time, and then bitch about being sentenced as a "habitual". I didn't commit your crimes, I didn't arrest you or charge you, I didn't convict you, and I didn't sentence you. I just have to put up with your constant case of the ass about not being "special" enough to ignore the law and do whatever you please, when you please.

Your brother worked very hard to get where he is. It's my job to keep him there so he can't fuck up anyone else's life. He's lucky he DIDN'T kill some innocent kid. Instead of resentment, he should be glad that he was stopped before he did. It could have been YOU that he killed.

Sorry, I'm not 90 yet. I just made a best-guess on your age based on the whining, resentful attitude that you exhibited. The "blame anyone else" attitude is something most people grow out of. Maybe you're just a late bloomer.

P.S. Until you become rational...... **ignore**

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Without knowing who your brother is and his DOC number, it's kind of hard to verify anything. But to be fair, I'm not giving YOU any of my personal info either. But actually, my best friend is a PO, and it's more than likey to happen with habituals. Sorry he couldn't take the hint.

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