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Old 05-30-2008
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Re: Civil suit to go ahead against Nifong

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I'll give you that there were more players than just Nifong in this story, however he was behind it. Two assholes, him and the girl who "accused". And if it comes out that policemen, etc. aided him in what he did, they are assholes too.
Yup deinately, which is the case, will see the 3 kids go to Nifong and tell them that they have him by the ball and ask him to testify against the City and Duke to avoid them coming after his ever earning(s) for the rest of his life.

If he didn't file correctly his home and pension may even be open to their claim of remunerations...

But going back to the isue of "assholes", i think the bitch who cried rape is oh so more responsible and more to blame than anyone, not just for the fact she insitagted it all but she probably knew she was protected by shield laws thus making it impossible to go after her for lying.

But i'm not entirely sure where the law lays here; i don't know whether it exhempts the feds from coming (or being asked, which is wher the problem is) to pursue perjuy and flase and unlawful accusation charges. Of course fo them to have been asked to get involved Nifong would had to have been on the level to start with rather than being a white apologist for women and black folks.

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While I don't know every detail of this story (its been a while), I will say that while Duke may have jumped the gun in some peoples minds, they were probably working off the same intelligence that others were. Intelligence we now know was BS/misleading. I cant say I blame them too much. I mean...its three rich white boys who attend one of the best universities in the world being accused of raping a black stripper.
Meaning its more likely they were guilty and/or that it actually happened? What's the stand out factor? Them being white? Them being rich or that she was black or she was a stripper? Or a combination of all these "perfect circumstances for wrongdoing" all rolled into one?

I hope i've misunderstood what you meant by that tbh...

I would say its a stretch to think oficers were involved without it having been exposed already, especially doing a hatchet job on these 3 without any knowledge or encouragment from the DA.

As for Duke they should have the asses sued off them to the point it bankrupts them, the should have treated those students the way they did. But when men are accussed of doing somthing a woman, God help that man in the society we live in today.

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I don't know, IMO it isn't a liberal thing. Racial relations in this country seem FUBAR at times, and either way you cut it, shit like this does NOT help it.
If anything its a more conservative thing, though we have a fair share of extremist liberals and weak minded women who believe that ceremoniously destroying men's lives is the way to go...let's face it most normal moderate/sensible people don't believe in such protective measures for women, especially grown adults (not for underage crimes).

But apparently a lot of (predominantly white) conservative men seem to think being an apologist for women makes them look somewhat more noble and chivalrous...in this case of course it wasn't an honorable or decent woman they were defending but rather a horrible creature who Nifong thought could help him get re-elected. She was a stripper though anyway which eluded the "we must protect the ladies of our society" crap that over zealoted prosecutors usually come out with.
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Re: Civil suit to go ahead against Nifong

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Meaning its more likely they were guilty and/or that it actually happened? What's the stand out factor? Them being white? Them being rich or that she was black or she was a stripper? Or a combination of all these "perfect circumstances for wrongdoing" all rolled into one?

I hope i've misunderstood what you meant by that tbh...
I don't think you have misunderstood me, I think I'm just not laying it out right. I have that problem now and then.

I'm talking about public perception. That head line would provoke a whiplash reaction almost anywhere. But this is the South, and without putting much thought into, etc. just imagine seeing that headline, whats the first thing that you would think?

Not necessarily that they did it (just because they are white and rich and she is a black stripper) but that whether or not they did, they will get off? That headline threw a spotlight on Duke, it was a nasty spotlight and they reacted. Seriously, this state lit up when that hit. Or maybe I just saw it more because its an hour from me.
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Re: Civil suit to go ahead against Nifong

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I don't think you have misunderstood me, I think I'm just not laying it out right. I have that problem now and then.
Not half as much as i do.

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I'm talking about public perception. That head line would provoke a whiplash reaction almost anywhere. But this is the South, and without putting much thought into, etc. just imagine seeing that headline, whats the first thing that you would think?

Not necessarily that they did it (just because they are white and rich and she is a black stripper) but that whether or not they did, they will get off? That headline threw a spotlight on Duke, it was a nasty spotlight and they reacted. Seriously, this state lit up when that hit. Or maybe I just saw it more because its an hour from me.
Hmm yeah you probably have a better insight into this as a hometown issue and i understand what you mean about the perception.

But yeah even when i irst saw FNC cover it and even as much as i thought Kelly (then Kendall) was too much into the detail and they turned out to give it the fairest shot (Hannity was the sceptic) i even thought their coverage would have led to peopl thinking these 3 guys (and at the time the entire Lacross team) were guilty.
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Re: Civil suit to go ahead against Nifong

Ah - and don't forget Al Sharkton and Jesse "Deep Pockets" Jackson leading "protest" marches and ready to lynch the white kids before the trial even began...
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And Jackson also giving her a scholarship...which still is on offer to her!!
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uh yeah well the state of our schools may be sorry but I don’t they offer classes on glass blowing and even if they did, blowing pipes with no crack around wouldn't interest her.
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Abuse of power is nauseating. He will get his comuppance. He ought to be boning up on his bancruptsy laws so that he can avoid paying the families, as OJ did.
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Re: Civil suit to go ahead against Nifong

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Abuse of power is nauseating. He will get his comuppance. He ought to be boning up on his bancruptsy laws so that he can avoid paying the families, as OJ did.
Depends on the nature of the civil charges brought and what he is eventually found guilty of as to whether bankruptcy will provide him any relief. Most likely, it won't.

The reason OJ is able to protect his assets is because the source of his money is a ERISA retirement plan which by federal law is not subject ton attachment by his creditors.
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