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If I were to tell you not to move or I'll stomp you ass............then that may be true but still, it's not kidnapping.
No, that's probably just assault. But, were you to bar me in a room with a threat of violence, that would be kidnapping, and not just in Nevada.

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OJ just made the mistake of saying something like that in the wrong state.
No, OJ made the mistake of conspiring in and commiting a multitude of felonies. Poor choice on his part. Aren't you one who believes in consequences for one's actions, though?

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Sometimes you have to take into consideration mitigating circumstances.
Sure, if there are any. "I want my stuff back" is not a mitigating circumstance. "I was wealthy and now feel entitled" isn't either.

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It was a setup and it was payback.
Who set him up?

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You can't prove otherwise.
Ahh, yes, the logical fallacy of trying to prove a negative.

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I don't give a shit what you think of OJ personally. If you condone this kind of thing you're as morally corrupt as he is.....which is probably why you support GD Democrats with such zeal.


I "condone" a fair trial for someone accused of multiple felonies, and if guilty, I "condone" a reasonable punishment. If that somehow indicates to you that I have some sort of moral corruptions, well, you've got even bigger issues than I first thought.


Not sure what this has to do with Democrats, though.
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No, that's probably just assault. But, were you to bar me in a room with a threat of violence, that would be kidnapping, and not just in Nevada.



No, OJ made the mistake of conspiring in and commiting a multitude of felonies. Poor choice on his part. Aren't you one who believes in consequences for one's actions, though?



Sure, if there are any. "I want my stuff back" is not a mitigating circumstance. "I was wealthy and now feel entitled" isn't either.



Who set him up?



Ahh, yes, the logical fallacy of trying to prove a negative.





I "condone" a fair trial for someone accused of multiple felonies, and if guilty, I "condone" a reasonable punishment. If that somehow indicates to you that I have some sort of moral corruptions, well, you've got even bigger issues than I first thought.


Not sure what this has to do with Democrats, though.
So OJ wants his stuff back......gets some friends together to get that stuff back and one of them brings a gun which nobody can prove he even had. Just a criminal who turns state's evidence against him to get off with a slap on the wrist testifies that he saw a gun.

So he gets charged with kidnapping and 11 other felony counts.

And it's all about OJ's memorabilia.....and a dispute on who owns it.

Sounds like a capital crime that somebody deserves to serve a life sentence over.

Nobody was harmed, just a few threats were made.

Yup he deserves to serve a life sentence over this.


It's still payback.
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So OJ wants his stuff back......gets some friends together to get that stuff back and one of them brings a gun which nobody can prove he even had. Just a criminal who turns state's evidence against him to get off with a slap on the wrist testifies that he saw a gun.

So he gets charged with kidnapping and 11 other felony counts.

And it's all about OJ's memorabilia.....and a dispute on who owns it.

Sounds like a capital crime that somebody deserves to serve a life sentence over.

Nobody was harmed, just a few threats were made.

Yup he deserves to serve a life sentence over this.


It's still payback.
15 years is not a life sentence.

15 years is the law.

Seriously, man, get over it. He broke the law. He was convicted for it. He'll get the same sentence that anyone else would have.
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15 years is not a life sentence.

15 years is the law.

Seriously, man, get over it. He broke the law. He was convicted for it. He'll get the same sentence that anyone else would have.
I don't have to get over anything. And the news said it could be a life sentence. Are you saying they're full of crap. It wouldn't be the first time. I'm just listening to the news on this. I've not been reading up on it like I do everything else we talk about here. The only exposure I've had is TV news reports.

I just have a problem with someone like Michael Vick getting 18 months and OJ getting 15 years for telling someone not to leave the room.

And you still can't convince me that he wasn't found guilty because the jury had a score to settle with him over the murder of his wife and Ron Goldman.

Maybe it's Karma, but something fishy happened here. The worst crime I can see in all of this is the crime of stupidity. OJ should have moved out of the country like Michael Jackson because they would have gotten him too if he hadn't left.
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I think it was payback for the murders of his wife and Ronald Goldman.

He was convicted by an all White jury over charges that are highly questionable.

Do you think this is payback.

Strange, I believe this is the 14 year aniversary of his being found not guilty in Los Angelas.
Well, isn't the Jury not supposed to really know who the guy is? I thought they were supposed to find unbiased individuals no matter how difficult it is.
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Well, isn't the Jury not supposed to really know who the guy is?
What???

That's not the case at all...

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I thought they were supposed to find unbiased individuals no matter how difficult it is.
They are. But that's very different than finding people who don't know who he is...
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I don't have to get over anything. And the news said it could be a life sentence. Are you saying they're full of crap. It wouldn't be the first time. I'm just listening to the news on this. I've not been reading up on it like I do everything else we talk about here. The only exposure I've had is TV news reports.

I just have a problem with someone like Michael Vick getting 18 months and OJ getting 15 years for telling someone not to leave the room.

And you still can't convince me that he wasn't found guilty because the jury had a score to settle with him over the murder of his wife and Ron Goldman.

Maybe it's Karma, but something fishy happened here. The worst crime I can see in all of this is the crime of stupidity. OJ should have moved out of the country like Michael Jackson because they would have gotten him too if he hadn't left.
I'm not sure if you take the stances you do to be some sort of devil's advocate, or if you're really on some other planet.

The minimum sentence is 15 years, but he could receive up to life. Yes, that's true.

He didn't just tell someone to not leave a room. I'm not sure which orifice from which you're pulling this stuff.

It makes me wonder if maybe OJ's a Republican, so you feel obligated to defend any and every action he takes, no matter how ridiculous you sound.
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And you still can't convince me that he wasn't found guilty because the jury had a score to settle with him over the murder of his wife and Ron Goldman.
Given that, why do you keep posting in the thread?

You keep asking questions and making your points, all the while being resolute that he was recently found guilty because of the murders.

Okay, so nobody is going to change your mind.

Do you think you'll change someone else's mind?

Your whole endeavor seems pretty fuckin' pointless...
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Payback? Yes. For sure. But it's payback for being stupid. Wiki O.J. and you'll find that he was charged with stealing satellite signals, for unpaid back taxes, etc. The guy was found not-guilty of murder, but he must have known that there was a feeling out there that he got off. So how does he go out and live his life? Like a careless and irresponsible oaf. Getting himself into some obvious trouble about every other year or so and getting caught redhanded all the time.

There was no payback going into this series of events, O.J. was simply insisting on wanting to prove how dumb a criminal he could be. This latest crime is just about the stupidest thing you've ever read. There were other ways that he could have gone about getting his stuff back, if indeed it was his stuff. Instead he and his posse just acted like thugs, getting caught on camera just about every step of the way.
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This is a result of inferior genes.
Uhhhhh, yeah, right, those "inferior" genes that only blessed him with the talent to be the first RB to post a 2,000+ yard season.

Nothing to do with genes, racist.
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OJ was living free on borrowed time. The free ride is over. "Justice" in this case wasn't meted out for the murders because he got off, nor for the robbery for which he was sentenced too harshly. The combination, though, works for me.
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OJ was living free on borrowed time. The free ride is over. "Justice" in this case wasn't meted out for the murders because he got off, nor for the robbery for which he was sentenced too harshly. The combination, though, works for me.
He hasn't actually been sentenced for the robbery / kidnapping / conspiracy yet.

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OJ was living free on borrowed time. The free ride is over. "Justice" in this case wasn't meted out for the murders because he got off, nor for the robbery for which he was sentenced too harshly. The combination, though, works for me.
This is exactly what I've been saying.

People have a score to settle with OJ.

This only proves my point.


Remember this; he was found not guilty.

It doesn't matter what you think. According to the law that murder case has zero bearing on this case. Anyone on that jury that had a score to settle was breaking the law. It is not up to them to right a perceived wrong.

That is the only reason I opened this thread. I wanted to see what people are thinking.
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This is exactly what I've been saying.

People have a score to settle with OJ.

This only proves my point.


Remember this; he was found not guilty.

It doesn't matter what you think. According to the law that murder case has zero bearing on this case. Anyone on that jury that had a score to settle was breaking the law. It is not up to them to right a perceived wrong.

That is the only reason I opened this thread. I wanted to see what people are thinking.
And, you have yet to demonstrate any relationship whatsoever between his acquittal for murder and his conviction for assault, kidnapping, conspiracy, etc.
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And, you have yet to demonstrate any relationship whatsoever between his acquittal for murder and his conviction for assault, kidnapping, conspiracy, etc.
My point was there is no relationship between the two......but some people still want to get even. The post below proves it.

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OJ was living free on borrowed time. The free ride is over. "Justice" in this case wasn't meted out for the murders because he got off, nor for the robbery for which he was sentenced too harshly. The combination, though, works for me.
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Payback? Yes. For sure. But it's payback for being stupid.
Or this one.

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No question that he "got justice". And the severity of the sentencing serves karma.
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