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Was OJ verdict Payback?

I think it was payback for the murders of his wife and Ronald Goldman.

He was convicted by an all White jury over charges that are highly questionable.

Do you think this is payback.

Strange, I believe this is the 14 year aniversary of his being found not guilty in Los Angelas.
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I think it was payback for the murders of his wife and Ronald Goldman.

He was convicted by an all White jury over charges that are highly questionable.

Do you think this is payback.

Strange, I believe this is the 14 year aniversary of his being found not guilty in Los Angelas.
I hope it wasn't payback. The jury would be very wrong in doing that. And, they took an oath not to do such things.
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Re: Was OJ verdict Payback?

Who cares ? Its about time karma caught up with this sleeze.
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I hope it wasn't payback. The jury would be very wrong in doing that. And, they took an oath not to do such things.
I think he's guilty of something but I don't think he deserves a life sentence.
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Who cares ? Its about time karma caught up with this sleeze.

Do you think a sleeze deserves justice or does he deserve to be rail-roaded?
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LAS VEGAS – The jurors in O.J. Simpson's armed robbery and kidnapping trial claimed a mixture of opinions about his acquittal on murder charges more than a decade ago, but all told attorneys they could set aside their feelings.
According to jury questionnaires released Saturday, five of the 12 jurors wrote that they disagreed with the 1995 verdict that cleared Simpson in the deaths of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend Ronald Goldman. Most others claimed to be uncertain or did not answer the question.

Some on Simpson jury disagreed with 1995 acquittal - Yahoo! News
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The case against Simpson was won the moment the jury was chosen, according to the consultant who helped prosecutors pick the panel.
"That was the best possible jury prosecutors could ever have," said Howard Varinsky, who drafted a questionnaire for the prosecution that formed the basis of a survey used to cull 12 jurors and six alternates from a pool of 500 prospects.
"I was surprised that we got all the counts," he said Saturday. "But it wasn't an accident that the jury wound up looking like that."

Simpson jury: We didn't need witnesses to convict - Yahoo! News
The prosecution gets a hand picked Jury, some of whom say they disagreed with the verdict 13 years ago. He was found guilty the day the trial started, and he deserves it. You got off from a murder charge, O.J. And everyone knows you did it. Now here you are tempting fate. Not the greatest idea.
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I think he's guilty of something but I don't think he deserves a life sentence.
If I had it my way, the piece of shit would already be doing a life sentence. But, he's not. I don't really care what happens to him; I do care about the jurors keeping their integrity. I care about oaths - they mean something.
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Re: Was OJ verdict Payback?

If it was "apyback", that would be wrong.

I think he killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. But thefact of the matter is that he was found not guilty. Like it or not, that's the end of it.

If this latest jury found him guilty because of the murders, then I hope that can be shown, and that he's granted a new trial. If he's guilty of the current charges, find him guilty. If he's not, then find him not guilty...
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I think he was convicted because he robbed memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.
If he doesn't go to that hotel "to get his stuff back", he's still a free man.
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Re: Was OJ verdict Payback?

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I think he's guilty of something but I don't think he deserves a life sentence.
Why not? Look at what he was convicted of.
  • Two counts of first-degree kidnapping, felony: life in state prison or a definite term of 15 years, depending on the sentencing judge's discretion. Parole eligibility begins after five years. Use of a deadly weapon during a kidnapping can add one to 20 years, depending on the circumstances.
  • Two counts of robbery with use of a deadly weapon, felony: mandatory two to 15 years in prison, plus a possible one to 15 years for use of a weapon.
  • Burglary while in possession of a deadly weapon: felony, probation or as many as two to 15 years.
  • Two counts of coercion with use of a deadly weapon, felony: probation or as many as two to 12 years in prison.
  • Two counts of assault with a deadly weapon, felony: probation or as many as one to six years.
  • Conspiracy to commit kidnapping, felony: probation or as many as one to six years.
  • Conspiracy to commit robbery, felony: probation or as many as one to six years.
  • Conspiracy to commit a crime, gross misdemeanor: probation or as much as one year in county jail.
O.J. Simpson case charges and penalties -- OrlandoSentinel.com

This wasn't a tea party OJ held - it was a series of felony crimes.

What do you think should be done with him?

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I think he was convicted because he robbed memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.
If he doesn't go to that hotel "to get his stuff back", he's still a free man.
I didn't know that the charge is basically the same as if he had gone and robbed a bank at gunpoint. Interesting.

What's with the kidnapping charge? Who did they kidnap? I can't seem to find it in the timeline of events. Do they mean that if you go into somebody's place and hold them up at gunpoint, and the time while you're robbing them is considered "kidnapping"?

Payback? Yes. For sure. But it's payback for being stupid. Wiki O.J. and you'll find that he was charged with stealing satellite signals, for unpaid back taxes, etc. The guy was found not-guilty of murder, but he must have known that there was a feeling out there that he got off. So how does he go out and live his life? Like a careless and irresponsible oaf. Getting himself into some obvious trouble about every other year or so and getting caught redhanded all the time.

There was no payback going into this series of events, O.J. was simply insisting on wanting to prove how dumb a criminal he could be. This latest crime is just about the stupidest thing you've ever read. There were other ways that he could have gone about getting his stuff back, if indeed it was his stuff. Instead he and his posse just acted like thugs, getting caught on camera just about every step of the way.

The fact that the jury declared him guilty on the 13th anniversary of his big acquittal just seems to underline the "Payback". They could have maybe waited an extra day or through the weekend. But in the end, he did it. He did it, and it was done spectularly bad. I think 15-20 years is fair.
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Re: Was OJ verdict Payback?

When he was acquitted of murder thirteen years ago, O. J. Simpson promised to "find the real killer." Since then, he has devoted his life to that mission, searching assiduously through every golf course in Florida, and checking out hundreds of other leads as well.

Had he been successful in locating this "real killer," O' J. Simpson would have become a national hero, and not the object of public scorn. Even the media would have been forced to recognize his essential goodness.

But with this conviction and his impending carceration, O. J.'s important work will end. Golly, life just doesn't seem fair.
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I didn't know that the charge is basically the same as if he had gone and robbed a bank at gunpoint. Interesting.

What's with the kidnapping charge? Who did they kidnap? I can't seem to find it in the timeline of events. Do they mean that if you go into somebody's place and hold them up at gunpoint, and the time while you're robbing them is considered "kidnapping"?...
When you forceably interfere with the liberty of another, and you have no authority to do so, that's kidnapping.
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I think he was convicted because he robbed memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.
If he doesn't go to that hotel "to get his stuff back", he's still a free man.
He also killed 2 people but wasn't convicted on that....

He shouldn't be serving life as a like for like sentence; if he was convicted last time round he could have been sentenced to death.

5 of the 12 jurors did also say they thought he was guilty last time round too.
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When you forceably interfere with the liberty of another, and you have no authority to do so, that's kidnapping.
No, that's clearly assault.

So the kidnapping charge happens because they held those people up from leaving the room, right?
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