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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
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Further, Alito got the shit kicked out of him, filibuster threats from good ole Joe and Obama notwithstanding I didn't hear many banging the “pile on” or “unfairness” gong when this was going on, to say nothing of Thomas or Bork, or Estrada ala his appellate position and his withdrawal ).
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
well the history is strongly conflicting with your attempted viewpoint here, despite your attempt to ignore the more elaborate argument and focus on the more general weaker one.
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Sorry. A Hispanic is generally someone with roots in Spanish speaking Latin America. Sometimes it extends to Spain as well, but not usually, and never to someone from Portugal, especially with that degree of separation.
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
History is conflicting with my "attempted viewpoint"? What viewpoint would that be? That mechadave is wrongly saying that there are no Hispanic Jews?
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"Hey, look at the Hispanic guy from Portugal" Done and done. |
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All I'm saying is that Imperator made a valid point. People seem to be valuing and celebrating this precedent for precedent's sake. The concern should be on whether Sotomayor will be a good justice. Obama did a terrific job to ride to the top while not highlighting his African-American-ness. It made the precedent more of a formality. If Sotomayor has done/is doing the same, I applaud her.
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Truce?
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correct me if i am wrong.
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As for nitpicking, nope, just wondering if mechadave honestly believes that there are no Hispanic Jews, especially after asking someone else if he can ever admit to being wrong. Quote:
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
Valid in what sense of the word?
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
Logically. It was a logical point to make. It doesn't win an argument or prove a theorem, but it was a logical point.
But I'm getting out of the argument because it seems to have turned emotional. Ethnic labels are sometimes more about desired identity or differentiation than they are about logic. We start by accepting a different premise in the matter, so we obviously can't agree. Fine by me. I'm unemotional and unmotivated to argue about a label that is subjective by nature.....and I think that Sotomayor appears to be a great pick, so I have no motive to diminish the historic nature of her upcoming confirmation.
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
In other news, I rarely bother to get offended on my own behalf, but Mike Huckabee calling her "Maria Sotomayor" just might do it.
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