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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
I was exagerating of course.
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
It's a solid pick politically.
I agree with Imperator that she's technically not the first Hispanic justice....she is the first Hispanic female justice, though....so new ground is still being broken. What's more important than her ethnic background is the political ramifications of the Hispanic population of the country feeling represented to some degree in the justice system. I'm not sure that they got the same feeling about Alberto Gonzalez... Again, politically, this is a solid pick. There's almost no way the Republicans can stifle her confirmation without incurring damage. That is...unless there is some huge skeleton in her closet that is unknown as of yet. The net effect of this on future supreme court decisions is probably about nil. Sotomayor replacing Souter is pretty much an even swap.
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I agree with that but that is because the msm has lost focus of degree of left or right unless it’s a con. nominee, she is I fear further left than souter, it certainly appears that way, but the band is already playing the moderate song, because they want her in so lets not expect any real msm scrutiny, she is a ‘moderate’ and so shall she remain short of pissing on Lincolns leg at the monument.
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
any supreme court nomination is just like the constitution. it can be debated ad nauseum, and there are no defined standards, there are no concrete conclusions.
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Chances are, if she's got a long a record as she has and no one can establish a pattern of a radical agenda, it's hard to argue that she's not a moderate. It's highly unlikely that a person of her experience is going to completely change their stripes.....
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History of the Jews in Portugal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This reminds me of the allegations that Obama is not really the first black POTUS and that Warren G. Harding was given it's now pretty much been shown that he had some distant West Indian black ancestors. Technically, the allegations are probably true and Obama isn't the first POTUS having black ancestry in his family tree. But given Harding was a 'passer' of mostly white blood and presented himself as white and/or never admitted he had black ancestry in his family tree, he won't ever get credit for being the first black POTUS.
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I think we have to ditch the technicalities in this case. Some guy named Cardozo, back in the early part of the 20th century is most certainly going to be perceived as Hispanic....even if his roots don't directly trace that way (although one would have to wonder how he got the name Cardozo if he had no hispanic bloodline. If they took on the surname artificially to avoid persecution, I didn't see that mentioned in the bio). Appointing a guy named Cardozo to the Supreme Court in the 1920's is certainly more groundbreaking than naming a woman named Sotamayor in 2009. I really doubt seizing the prize for firsts is what the Obama administration is going for. They should be happy to claim the first "hispanic female" justice and leave it at that. Politically, the perception is a win for them either way.
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re: Sotomayor chosen as SC nominee (academic discussion)
OMG, are you still talking about the Hispanic thing?
I'll clear this up for you guys. (These are for US use) Black = African (even if you're from the Dominican Republic and just look African) Hispanic = Brown skin but cannot pass as black or white white = Duh Asian = slanted eyes/dark hair/usually smart Now that we're on the same page, lets discussing something that matters. |
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nice try.
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No, those are Muslims, duh.
edit: However, an Indian in a construction worker outfit or a maids outfit can easily be mistaken for Hispanic. |
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Sephardic Jews spread all over the place when being expelled and persecuted in the Iberian Peninsula--Europe, North Africa, Ottoman Empire, and even the American colonies, as in Cardozo's case. Cardozo's ancestry started in the US back before the American colonies became independent, which has nothing in common with today's Hispanic population, and he identified himself as Jewish as did society and still does today. Just as one example, the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law is the law school of Yeshiva University in NYC, a Jewish university. Quote:
Other examples of Sephardic Jews in American history include people like Judah P. Benjamin, the Confederate Secretary of State and War and Attorney General during the American Civil War, who with his family sought out the Sephardic Jewish community in South Carolina mentioned above as a destination when arriving in the US. Quote:
Popular opinion has always identified them as Jews because they are Jews and they self-identify themselves as such.
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