Thread: Can this guy be prosecuted

prosecuted ? I doubt it. harrassed ? you betcha.

Since he didn't actually make a threat on the President's life, I don't think he can be prosecuted. I'm sure he'll get a nice visit and free interview session with the Secret Service, though.

Originally Posted by Speakeasy

Since he didn't actually make a threat on the President's life, I don't think he can be prosecuted. I'm sure he'll get a nice visit and free interview session with the Secret Service, though.

Yeah I think at least the investigation is justified. I didn't vote for Obama nor do I agree with his policies but he is our president and he was elected fair and square.

Taken in a vaccuum, I'd have no problem seeing him dead. Taken in context, it would be extremely stupid. Obama the Martyr would do a hell of a lot more damage to our country than would Obama the President could ever realistically hope to.

( Note to any Secret Service search bots or whatnot - I have too much to live for to do it myself, not enough money to have somebody else do it, and as you can tell from the comment above, too much sense to want it to actually happen. )

Originally Posted by sinebar

Bob Beckel says he should be but can he?

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I highly doubt it legally but I wouldn't be shocked if he was. He didn't make a threat he asked a question.

I think Joe Biden would make a much worse president then Obama. Biden is crazy like Ron Paul but he shares Obama's political philosophy, IMO hes a bit more extreme.

I think 'crazy' Joe Biden is nothing more then an insurance policy on Obama's life.

Whats the order?

Obama
Biden
Pelosi
?

Out of those three Obama seems sane.

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."

Now this is more protection than is given to just any citizen, and the the particular crux here is that the exact nature of the "threat" is purposely left ill-defined.

It still looks, at least on the face of it, like it doesn't rise to the level of conspriracy BUT there is the fact that if it does get interpreted that way then we have a pretty clear "overt act" and the fact that Facebook allows for ID of respondents by posters if they so desire does little to allay concern in that area.

Oh yeh, this guy gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Apropos of nothing, has anyone noticed that if you gave him a pair of Foster Grants Obama himself would be almost the stereotype of a Secret Service man?

Originally Posted by Swoop187

I think Joe Biden would make a much worse president then Obama. Biden is crazy like Ron Paul but he shares Obama's political philosophy, IMO hes a bit more extreme.

I think 'crazy' Joe Biden is nothing more then an insurance policy on Obama's life.

Whats the order?

Obama
Biden
Pelosi
?

Out of those three Obama seems sane.

Order of Presidential Succession — Infoplease.com

Yeah, there are a LOT of crazies on that list.

Also, Beckel actually said the guy should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Contradictory, but if he broke no law, he's already being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Although I'm fairly sure Facebook could find something in their EULA to hammer him with if they wanted to. Most people TLDR those, and he's probably violated any number of technicalities.

Yes, Bob Beckel wants the guy prosecuted, but then again Beckel is a partisan hack in my opinion.

"This is the kind of garbage that's generated from the extreme right against Obama, and it's going way over the line"

He'll use anything as vehicle to smear the other side, including something incredibly stupid like what the Facebook guy did - not to say the Republicans wouldn't try to do the same if the situation were reversed. Anyhow, he kind of makes it sound like the right is making threats against BO all the time.

Anyhow, not being a lawyer or anything, he might get pinched by the SS for using Facebook to incite violence against the president.

Originally Posted by JoMe

Yes, Bob Beckel wants the guy prosecuted, but then again Beckel is a partisan hack in my opinion.

"This is the kind of garbage that's generated from the extreme right against Obama, and it's going way over the line"

He'll use anything as vehicle to smear the other side, including something incredibly stupid like what the Facebook guy did - not to say the Republicans wouldn't try to do the same if the situation were reversed. Anyhow, he kind of makes it sound like the right is making threats against BO all the time.
Anyhow, not being a lawyer or anything, he might get pinched by the SS for using Facebook to incite violence against the president.

And they fuckin are. Anyone who says different is being amazingly disingenuous, knows NO really rabid conservatives, is a goddam liar, or all three.

It's nothing new, the Rabid Right has made noises of let's kill the President and "putting the people back in charge" (ie, them) since FDR. just that this time they have the slavering kukluxers on their side too.

As do the rabid left - the message here is that the extremes on both sides are fucked in the head.

Matt

Originally Posted by John Drake

And they fuckin are. Anyone who says different is being amazingly disingenuous, knows NO really rabid conservatives, is a goddam liar, or all three.

It's nothing new, the Rabid Right has made noises of let's kill the President and "putting the people back in charge" (ie, them) since FDR. just that this time they have the slavering kukluxers on their side too.

I don't mean to nitpick, but wasn't threatening to kill Bush a point of pride for people on the left for years? I heard way more threats against Bush than I have against Obama.

That doesn't excuse this jackass, he's a moron and deserves whatever deep and uncomfortable probative action the secret service chooses to take on him. I just feel the need to ask why you feel the need to point the finger at the right on this.

Also, when it comes to actual presidential assassination attempts since FDR, the left has a far more prolific record than the right. (See, Lee Harvey Oswald. See, Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme. See, Sara Jane Moore.) Just sayin'...:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Swoop187

I think Joe Biden would make a much worse president then Obama. Biden is crazy like Ron Paul but he shares Obama's political philosophy, IMO hes a bit more extreme.

I think 'crazy' Joe Biden is nothing more then an insurance policy on Obama's life.

Whats the order?

Obama
Biden
Pelosi
?

Out of those three Obama seems sane.

Doesn't matter that Biden and Pelosi might be more crazy or left than Obama. They don't have the star power or likability that Obama enjoys which is pushing the agenda of the Left. With either of them in power the push from the Left would stall out and die even more than it's doing now, with Superstar O leading the way.