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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

According to my friend from Chicago, Obama is Oprah-inc.
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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Naw, we left Kaczynski alone all those years didn't we? He looked pretty silly in that hood.

As long as I chew tobacco, wear a cowboy hat and threaten to hang queers, they'll let me run for office as a corporation.
"Bank Holding Company", there's the key. Get the Fed to finance your campaign.
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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"Bank Holding Company", there's the key. Get the Fed to finance your campaign.
Holy crap! Good idea... I'll make sure to throw you a kickback contract, keep up the good work!
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

I was throwing this idea back and forth in my mind, I even started writing a thread a few days ago but changed my mind. Citizenship is required, with a birth certificate or citizenship documentation to prove it. However the argument can be made that a corporation's initial filing to become incorporated could be proof as birth of a person.

A new corporation could not do this, as it would need to be 25-35 years old depending on the office.

So, you would need to buy a company with more than 25 years of incorporation history to enable it to run for office. But yes, I think it is completely possible.


Also, I think it should be done. For one, other corporations might step into the fray and either defend it, or try to fight it. If they defend it, they will pour money into the legal defense to argue that the corporations have the right to run for office, making the case much larger than it would otherwise be. They would also push for coverage. However, I doubt executives are this stupid. If they fight it, then one can easily make the argument, why are they so against it? If corporations are so great and so American, why would it be bad for a corporation to hold office? It would bring to light the actual problem in the country which is spreading around the world, the fact that we are a Corporatocracy, and no longer a democracy. Maybe then people will get mad enough to actually do something about it.
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

Well, if a Corporation can run for the Presidency, could it also pick another Corporation as its running mate?

And could this Corporation also appoint other Corporations to positions in the Cabinet, such as secretary of state, treasury, labor, energy, etc., etc.?

And would a Corporations stock dramatically rise in value due to an anticipated victory in elections or confidence once in office?
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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Since the court has precedents dating back over 130 years that corporations are people and therefore have constitutional rights (particularly the right to free speech), does anyone know if a corporation has ever run for an elected office?
Do you have a link for that?

A corporation is an ENTITY separate from the people that formed it. And an entity is not necessarily a person.
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I'm tempted to say corporations don't have the same freedom of speech that individuals have, based upon the fact that the Marlboro Man no longer graces our tv's. But, I don't think an individual stockholder in Alteria could advertise cigarettes even if they wanted to. There's no doubt corporations' freedom of speech is limited by ad laws, but so are individual speech rights to some extent.

The Supremes have ruled that corporation political contributions are limited to "soft money" and per kind spending. Yet, corporations hold informal fund raisers for political campaigns all the time, and have PAC's.

So, corporations aren't exactly the same as individuals as far as law is concerned.
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Lobbying is covered under the first amendment. Political donation caps have been enforced and reversed under the first amendment. Corporations regularly fight EPA and OSHA searches as well as any other type of search and or seizure under the fourth amendment right, and win.

Corporations are granted the rights of people on a regular basis, it happens.
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Do you have a link for that?

A corporation is an ENTITY separate from the people that formed it. And an entity is not necessarily a person.
Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

Actually, if corporations are granted protection under the 14th amendment, they can run for office.

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Actually, if corporations are granted protection under the 14th amendment, they can run for office.

Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
No, they can't, nor can a husband and wife be elected to the same office (at the same time).
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No, they can't, nor can a husband and wife be elected to the same office (at the same time).
The wording of the 14th is "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside....." and they HAVE been granted protection.

The requirements for running for president is:

be a natural born citizen of the United States;
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

I'm sure it would at least make it to the Supreme Court, therefore making headlines and bringing light to the farce that is corporate personhood.
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Re: If Corporations are People can they run for office?

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The americans with disabilities act would require them to have a larger meeting place for the senate.

Anyway the topic sounds ridiculous, however the whole concept of corporations being people protected by the 1st and 14th amendments is even more ridiculous, yet the SCOTUS has taken that position.

I wonder if I should try it for local office. Incorporate myself and then run for city commission or something.
perhaps a corporation is seen as a group of people, and groups of people have rights, but senate seats go to 'one' person.
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