Thread: the assasination of 17 afghan civilians by american sergant robert bales, it proves americ

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Why you not answer question? was the killing of 3,000 people on 9/11/2001 an act of the devil, or of Jihad? Was Osama Bin Laden (piss be upon him) an agent of the devil, or a "lion of Islam" as his fans claim?

i won't answer it because it's foolish. i have answer it many times, i guess. you answer it yourself. i just explained whole things to you. like i said it all could be a wrong ideology. and realize or not
it is a war between arab against distartorship of american and israel since then.
so i won't to respond it.
like a maxim says : where there is smoke there is fire. and you know it.
and a question : is hating all muslims a wise attitude and righteous political approach?

Originally Posted by asidin4

i won't answer it because it's foolish. i have answer it many times, i guess. you answer it yourself. i just explained whole things to you. like i said it all could be a wrong ideology. and realize or not
it is a war between arab against distartorship of american and israel since then.
so i won't to respond it.
like a maxim says : where there is smoke there is fire. and you know it.
and a question : is hating all muslims a wise attitude and righteous political approach?

So, your answer is that is was legitimate Jihad, and Osama Bin Laden (currently being sodomized by Iblis on an hourly basis) was a holy man? That seems to be what you are saying, but please correct me if I am wrong.

By the way, the way to converse is when someone asks you a question, you give to honest answer, not evasion.

So please directly answer my question. To do otherwise is rude.

Originally Posted by michael h

We will have to disagree ... man is inherently evil in my eyes and must work to avoid moral corruption. God may love humanity ... I cannot say I have the same affinity for mankind that God does nor do I cast aside sins as acts of satan. Man has free agency ... the choice to sin and harm others ... or not to do so. You might as well just kill everyone and blame it on some fantasy (satan) so you do not accept accountability for your sins. How could one even be sent to the fantasy of hell ... for sinning ... when it was all due to the whispers of satan? People sin ... God forgives.

hey i didn't call for mercy for each sin what man did. every human had paid what they did to others. there are two trials waiting. in the mortal world and hereafter. so though demon is a cause of each crime did by human being. The judges kept adjudicating him for each crime here in mortal world and by God's law in hereafter day, later.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

So, your answer is that is was legitimate Jihad, and Osama Bin Laden (currently being sodomized by Iblis on an hourly basis) was a holy man? That seems to be what you are saying, but please correct me if I am wrong.

By the way, the way to converse is when someone asks you a question, you give to honest answer, not evasion.

So please directly answer my question. To do otherwise is rude.

you don't have to say anything because you're wrong. ofcourse we can't allow massacres or killing man for a course where different religious man did it too not only osama ( as you said ), the mistake may only cause of wild doctrine believers made by human himself. not islam. i repeat not islam.
please study islam carefully. you don't know well islam.first study it.
i am not evading you. i don't want to answer you more, because you are stubborn and ignorant. you're stucked on it and i am too because of you. because there you are "a pushy man"

Originally Posted by asidin4

you don't have to say anything because you're wrong. ofcourse we can't allow massacres or killing man for a course where other religious man did too not only osama ( as you said ), the mistake it only a wild religious doctrine made by human himself. not islam. i repeat not islam.

Fine. I have no issue with that. The vast majority of Muslims are not at all like the extremist whackos.

I've never made any blanket statements about all of Islam.

I wish you'd stop making blanket statements to insult all Americans....

Matt

Originally Posted by asidin4

hey i didn't call for mercy for each sin what man did. every human had paid what they did to others. there are two trials waiting. in the mortal world and hereafter. so though demon is a cause of each crime did by human being. The judges kept adjudicating him for each crime here in mortal world and by God's law in hereafter day, later.

I didn't call for God's mercy either ... it's God's gift ... not mine. If a demon is the cause ... then the human is "not" the cause ... therefore the human is guilty of nothing ... and if there was a hell, only the demon would end up in hell. Human's may pay for their sins on earth ... that's the only place they pay.

Originally Posted by michael h

I didn't call for God's mercy either ... it's God's gift ... not mine. If a demon is the cause ... then the human is "not" the cause ... therefore the human is guilty of nothing ... and if there was a hell, only the demon would end up in hell. Human's may pay for their sins on earth ... that's the only place they pay.

i am sorry again. i have to rectify you again. sorry, but have you ever heard " man fall into sin because of satanic provocation". and the fault belongs to human itself for disobey God. people have right to choose if he want to be provoked by satan or stay in God. all is on your hand. there are only two choices. be good or not to be. if you choose not to be, you'll be facing of consequence. and the consequence is God's rules. you can't escape from the judgement of God. and there is God's role and also God's rules. okay? like i said if there is a hereafter day, it will be a second life after death and we'll be judged for all we did along we lived in mortal world.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

Fine. I have no issue with that. The vast majority of Muslims are not at all like the extremist whackos.

I've never made any blanket statements about all of Islam.

I wish you'd stop making blanket statements to insult all Americans....

Matt

okay. if you supposed like what you think you are, that you don't like most americans, you are humble, not arrogant, decent, i wanna see. without proofs what it is for? where are your promises i haven't seen yet..
thank you

Originally Posted by asidin4

the assasination of 17 afghan civilians by american sergant robert bales, that proving american violences. so now you don't have a reason to deny it. this is fresh news. so what i told you! all are proven at last. so we can laugh today. cause what covered now revealed. so bye bye...you with the american violences!

So there aren't violent people in Indonesia?

Originally Posted by fishjoel

So there aren't violent people in Indonesia?

why must indonesia? additionally i have answered this query. if we put in statistical analysis, america took first place, right, in violence of human rights. should i dissect police files? you can see it. but indonesia? woow ..isn't that a distant comparison? but okay here, people don't call violence but turmoil, is like your country,
but why you still around in circle?

Originally Posted by asidin4

why must indonesia? additionally i have answered this query. if we put in statistical analysis, america took first place, right, in violence of human rights. should i dissect police files? you can see it. but indonesia? woow ..isn't that a distant comparison? but okay here, people don't call violence but turmoil, like in your country,
but why you still around in circle?

That you place America before China, Iran and the like in human rights violations shows that you cannot be taken seriously in this regard.

Originally Posted by MattInFla

That you place America before China, Iran and the like in human rights violations shows that you cannot be taken seriously in this regard.

okay let's take a look at central bureau of statistic in each federal state in your country. then we summed. see, how many violence had happened.
i can't be taken seriously? based on police files? is not serious? alright, look at yourself
still circling..?

Originally Posted by asidin4

okay let's take a look at central bureau of statistic in each federal state in your country. then we summed. see, how many violence had happened.
i can't be taken seriously? based on police files? it is not serious?

We have no central bureau of statistic nor do we have federal states. Are you sure you are talking about the US?