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View Poll Results: Why did Sarah quit?
She had an affair with Mark Sanford at the Republican Governor's conference 1 8.33%
She had an affair with Levi Johnson- Bristol's "fiance" 1 8.33%
She had an affair with Bristol 0 0%
The truth of her swinger lifestyle is about to come out. 1 8.33%
The truth of her lesbian lifestyle is about to come out. 0 0%
She found out she has alzheimer's 0 0%
All of the above. 9 75.00%
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Re: Why is Sarah really quitting?

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She has done nothing for the Repubilican party. She has done nothing for the American political system
I disagree. Being as I pretty much despise what the republican party has become over the last 20 years, I'd say she's done a LOT for me by burying the republicans even further than they were already doing on their own.
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Re: Why is Sarah really quitting?

What has she done bad for the GOP or politics? Could you give me some examples? I mean, she did get attacked a lot for a whole load of horseshit that had nothing to do with anything. Maybe she quit because she didn't want to be indebt and bankrupt for the rest of her life. Maybe she couldn't focus on governing since she was always having to fight off stupid law suits by you fruitcakes. Those two reasons there are pretty good in themselves.
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Re: Why is Sarah really quitting?

I think the reasoning is pretty simple. After getting a taste of the Major League, sitting around in the Minors, spitting out sunflower seeds in front of the home crowd of 40 local yokels couldn't compete with the bright lights, big stage and ESPN cameras of The Show.

In other words, Sarah Palin quit because governing Alaska was a waste of her time and day-to-day duties of the job were getting in the way of jetting around the country, receiving media coverage, and grabbing headlines. She didn't quit because Letterman said nasty things about her kids. She didn't quit because she couldn't "take the pressure". She quit because she wants more of that kind of thing, and she can't well get it if she has to waste her time governing Alaska.
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I think the reasoning is pretty simple. After getting a taste of the Major League, sitting around in the Minors, spitting out sunflower seeds in front of the home crowd of 40 local yokels couldn't compete with the bright lights, big stage and ESPN cameras of The Show.

In other words, Sarah Palin quit because governing Alaska was a waste of her time and day-to-day duties of the job were getting in the way of jetting around the country, receiving media coverage, and grabbing headlines. She didn't quit because Letterman said nasty things about her kids. She didn't quit because she couldn't "take the pressure". She quit because she wants more of that kind of thing, and she can't well get it if she has to waste her time governing Alaska.
Those are some pretty big assumptions. I like my not wanting to be driven into financial ruin idea better. It makes 100% more sense than this.
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Those are some pretty big assumptions. I like my not wanting to be driven into financial ruin idea better. It makes 100% more sense than this.
I'd imagine that the financial motivations don't hurt the cause of resigning. She could amass quite a fortune over the next few years being a GOP kingmaker at speaking functions, hosting a TV show, or being a pundit. Your other explanation about fending off lawsuits strikes me as hollow. Whatever stuff she's made of, I don't think it's as fragile and shrinking violet as you seem to. I don't think Sarah would back down from that sort of thing regardless of whether it was her or the Alaskan taxpayer footing the bill. She's obviously very ambitious and no-nonsense, to phrase it in neutral terms.

But what about SarahPAC, taking in Yankees games with Giuliani, speaking all over the lower 48, and whispers among local Alaskan legislators that she lost interest after November ("the only eye contact she made in the legislative chamber was with the television camera."). And, it doesn't account for Palin's own categorization of herself as a "lame duck". People may bandy about her intelligence (I don't think she's dumb, personally, as much as she plays it on TV for the Joe the Plumber vote), but surely she's intelligent enough to recognize that she's abandoning any serious future political aspirations. Which, as far as I'm concerned, leaves the national attention angle. If someone signed up to be in a beauty pageant, I don't think it's much of a stretch to hypothesize that she thrives on and craves attention.
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What has she done bad for the GOP or politics?
The GOP has been narrowing itself to the party of:

Evangelicals need only apply (christian this christian that, god this god that)
Rich white and dumb poor white folks (corporate types and joe the plumber types)
Ideology is more important than logic (pushing for outlawing abortions while simultaneously fighting against S-chip for poor kids)
Hypocrites belong here (I've lost count of the number of "sanctity of marriage" republicans who are caught with their pants down with another woman, man, or boy).

etc.

Palin just makes it obvious to the masses that:
Evangelicals need only apply (she's as christian as they come)
Dumb poor white folks belong here (Maybe she's not dumb, but her Couric interview and other 'rumors' reinforce that idea)
Ideology is more important than logic (Her pro-abstinence position given her own daughter's teen pregnancy)
Hypocrites belong here (troopergate, housegate, etc).

The GOP has reduced itself from the party of 35% to the party of 25% to the party of 20%. Those remaining 20% are diehards who think bush was a great man led by god and Palin is the 2nd coming of christ in woman form.

As far as why she's doing what she's doing?
She wants fame and stardom. The governorship was nothing more than a useful tool to that end.
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The GOP has been narrowing itself to the party of:

Evangelicals need only apply (christian this christian that, god this god that)
Rich white and dumb poor white folks (corporate types and joe the plumber types)
Ideology is more important than logic (pushing for outlawing abortions while simultaneously fighting against S-chip for poor kids)
Hypocrites belong here (I've lost count of the number of "sanctity of marriage" republicans who are caught with their pants down with another woman, man, or boy).

etc.

Palin just makes it obvious to the masses that:
Evangelicals need only apply (she's as christian as they come)
Dumb poor white folks belong here (Maybe she's not dumb, but her Couric interview and other 'rumors' reinforce that idea)
Ideology is more important than logic (Her pro-abstinence position given her own daughter's teen pregnancy)
Hypocrites belong here (troopergate, housegate, etc).

The GOP has reduced itself from the party of 35% to the party of 25% to the party of 20%. Those remaining 20% are diehards who think bush was a great man led by god and Palin is the 2nd coming of christ in woman form.

As far as why she's doing what she's doing?
She wants fame and stardom. The governorship was nothing more than a useful tool to that end.
All that you wrote was opinion and commentary (most of which are false misconceptions). I asked for examples. Could you show me anything Palin has done or said that would lead you to these multiple conclusions?
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(false misconceptions).
Since that is a double negative, you're saying I'm dead on?

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I asked for examples. Could you show me anything Palin has done or said that would lead you to these multiple conclusions?
When it comes to politics, as we all know, perception is 95% of the fight. It doesn't matter whether McCain actually had a black mistress in 2000, it was the PERCEPTION of that given by rove+cronies that led to his failed presidential run in 2000 (he was far more popular in 2000 than he was in 2008, but got submarined by Rove's lies).

Palin is perceived to be an evangelical christian. Her quotes that our troops in Iraq are fighting a war for god (or whatever she said) is an example of this. She says our prayers will protect them, when in fact better armor or perhaps not sending them into an optional war would be a better strategy. Unlike bush who just gives lip-service to being a christian, Palin is a genuine die-hard christian. Maybe that sells her to some people, but to me its a turn-off. I want a president making decisions on FACTS not on some invisible buddy they talk to.

Palin came across HORRIBLY in the Couric interview. She can't name the newspapers she reads? She doesn't know what the role of the VP is? Once again, that is the PERCEPTION she gives whether she's actually that way or not.

Palin is for teaching more than just abstinence education, but because of remarks she has made about being pro-abstinence, the PERCEPTION is out there that her daughter getting pregnant was because of her own stupidity as a mother not teaching her daughter about condoms/the pill/etc.

Troopergate and housegate, whether they were founded in facts or not, give the PERCEPTION that she is just as corrupt, greedy, and power hungry as the 'corruption' she supposedly campaigned against. Once again, that is the PERCEPTION people get.



Even if most or all of those things are false, its hard for me to feel sorry for her being submarined by lies, as pretty much the GOP has taken lying to ridiculous levels under rove's tuteledge, with some help over the past 20 years by rush windbag. Its like feeling sorry for the boy who cries wolf every 5 minutes when the wolf finally does come eat him.


Don't get me wrong, I'm no dem sympathiser. I think Obama is failing because he's just continuing to follow established bush policies (which I hated), and the dems running congress are spinless douches who don't know how to actually exert some power once they get it (in complete contrast to republicans who know how to abuse the living fucking hell out of power whether they have it or not).

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Incontinence?
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What has she done bad for the GOP or politics? Could you give me some examples?
The Couric interview and her resignation speech are two examples that make people shudder to think of her in a position of power.
And the fact that the GOP tried to put her within a heartbeat of the presidency, contributes to the perception that the GOP label is the mark of an inferior product.
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Re: Why is Sarah really quitting?

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The Couric interview and her resignation speech are two examples that make people shudder to think of her in a position of power.
And the fact that the GOP tried to put her within a heartbeat of the presidency, contributes to the perception that the GOP label is the mark of an inferior product.
Yes- her quitting to do something , anything else just proves the GOPers cant walk & chew gum at the same time. Remember how McCain wanted to suspend his campaign in order to work on the economic crises. That was his second biggest mistake. Picking Palin was his biggest.
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Since that is a double negative, you're saying I'm dead on?



When it comes to politics, as we all know, perception is 95% of the fight. It doesn't matter whether McCain actually had a black mistress in 2000, it was the PERCEPTION of that given by rove+cronies that led to his failed presidential run in 2000 (he was far more popular in 2000 than he was in 2008, but got submarined by Rove's lies).

Palin is perceived to be an evangelical christian. Her quotes that our troops in Iraq are fighting a war for god (or whatever she said) is an example of this. She says our prayers will protect them, when in fact better armor or perhaps not sending them into an optional war would be a better strategy. Unlike bush who just gives lip-service to being a christian, Palin is a genuine die-hard christian. Maybe that sells her to some people, but to me its a turn-off. I want a president making decisions on FACTS not on some invisible buddy they talk to.

Palin came across HORRIBLY in the Couric interview. She can't name the newspapers she reads? She doesn't know what the role of the VP is? Once again, that is the PERCEPTION she gives whether she's actually that way or not.

Palin is for teaching more than just abstinence education, but because of remarks she has made about being pro-abstinence, the PERCEPTION is out there that her daughter getting pregnant was because of her own stupidity as a mother not teaching her daughter about condoms/the pill/etc.

Troopergate and housegate, whether they were founded in facts or not, give the PERCEPTION that she is just as corrupt, greedy, and power hungry as the 'corruption' she supposedly campaigned against. Once again, that is the PERCEPTION people get.



Even if most or all of those things are false, its hard for me to feel sorry for her being submarined by lies, as pretty much the GOP has taken lying to ridiculous levels under rove's tuteledge, with some help over the past 20 years by rush windbag. Its like feeling sorry for the boy who cries wolf every 5 minutes when the wolf finally does come eat him.


Don't get me wrong, I'm no dem sympathiser. I think Obama is failing because he's just continuing to follow established bush policies (which I hated), and the dems running congress are spinless douches who don't know how to actually exert some power once they get it (in complete contrast to republicans who know how to abuse the living fucking hell out of power whether they have it or not).
Oh ok...I think I'm getting what you're saying. You have no proof of anything at all to back up your statements. You only care about perception. Then you just parrot what you hear w/o thinking for yourself. Dishonest character assassination is not fact, I suppose. You basically just admitted that lying is ok and you go ahead and support it. I'm glad you, at least, admitted your dishonest intent.
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The Couric interview and her resignation speech are two examples that make people shudder to think of her in a position of power.
And the fact that the GOP tried to put her within a heartbeat of the presidency, contributes to the perception that the GOP label is the mark of an inferior product.
The Couric interview was a complete farce. What Palin should have done is just walked off the interview. The questions that were asked made me want to give myself a lobotomy. No wonder Palin blew her off.
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The Couric interview was a complete farce. What Palin should have done is just walked off the interview.
Ah, she could have shown the country what a quitter she is far in advance of resigning her governmental position. Good call.
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