I used to love that movie! When I was in school my class was actually shown that as part of our computer studies program. It would probably have been better served being screened in a social studies unit.

So, there's obviously great concern with who owns guns, given that they're being offered as prizes in raffles. What would have happened if a 12 year old had have bought a raffle ticket? Would they have got their own gun? If they were denied owning a gun based on their age, would they have have grounds to sue under the Constitution given that they have a right to arm themselves? And people wonder why there are so many gun deaths.......

Before you get your knickers in a knot, minors can't enter into contests in which they can't legally own the prize. If someone else bought the ticket for the kid, they wouldn't be able to claim it. And if you were paying attention, you'd see that he said "5 for the background check." The background check is needed to verify that you aren't a criminal ( and, obviously of legal age)

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...That's cheap.
It would be close\over 1000€ up here. Permits and such even more costly and add a metal locker to the top.

But back to the topic, eh?

Well when someone already has their mind made up without knowing anything about the topic, intelligent questions are not really to be expected.

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I suspect ProUSA's browning won't be much use against a dirty nuke, regardless of the gun laws.

No but see that is the beauty of the defense in layers plan. We have our own dirty or clean, large or small nukes to respond to other nukes with. We keep the small stuff like Uzis, AR15's for when you all decide to invade. Hell a lot of us even make our own ammunition so as long as we can get the powder and assorted necessities we are good to go.

Are you people ever going to give up on this thread, or does talking about it make you feel better somehow even if you can't do it. Its like high school boys talking about their conquests. Most of em were lying anyway

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LOL - I only pop in every now and then.

As you've said before its a silly thread. I find it quite amusing - you know - the boys with their toys type of thing.

It aint gunna happen. thats all there is to it.

Good thing that you live in a "free" country, huh?

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

That's what Bush said about Iraq too, no ?

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Huh? ..I mean, WHat?
Guns being expensive and there are laws which ensure safe keeping of them are equal to not living in a free country?
It was aweing at the overly cheap stock of firearms you have, and just pointed why I imagined so. No glorification or looking up or down.

We use Puukko-knives anyway. Much more traditional than guns.

Also quieter. The only problem is when being invaded by a shitload of people they just don't have the range and they are a one time only use, unless of course you go to retrieve it after you use it. If you do that the shitload of people minus one that are still left are more likely to get you first since I doubt they are using knives.

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Actually, that's what he said about the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. Are either of them still in power now?

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution

If you charge exorbinant fees to own a gun, isn't it just a ruse to prevent gun ownership and therefore, limit your freedom?
And he won the gun in a raffle in which he paid $10 for a ticket. There may have been thousands of tickets sold for a gun that may have been worth a lot. It's the same as buying raffle tickets for a new car.
I'm not familiar with them. Got pictures?

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"Peace is our Profession"

"Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine. . . . Far from being rivals or enemies, religion and law are twin sisters, friends, and mutual assistants.
" - James Wilson, U. S. Supreme Court Justice and Signer of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution